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    The Trinity is a third century invention. The idea came from paganism. Anything that teaches the Trinity is probably paganism, whether that be old or new.

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    In the latter times many shall depart the truth and follow the doctrine of demons.I guess these demons could know quote a bit by now and easily deceive people who are not of the truth.

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    Don't get me wrong Colter. I am a science fiction fan. Notice the word fiction though.If your book was a movie, I would probably pay $20 to see it if it was in 3D. But it would still be fiction.

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    Quote (Colter @ May 27 2013,00:38)If you were correct, then if Jesus did send you an advanced revelation of truth, your “technique” for assessing truth would deny you the opportunity simply because God doesn't do things your way. Just so you are aware, the Jews very much considered Christianity to be a fringe cult of followers of a “clever”…[Read more]

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    The “Ye” in Yeshua is the abbreviated form of YHWH, while “Shua” is from the Hebrew word 'salvation'. Jesus means “YHWH is salvation.”Isaiah means “salvation of the Lord”. It is basically the same meaning as Yeshua.Then we have other names like Elijah, Obadiah etc. It is plain to see that all of these use the name of YHWH and another word to form…[Read more]

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    Kathi. Jesus came in his Father's name. Q: What is his Father's name?YHWH?Did Jesus come in his own name?No, he came in his Father's name.So he didn't come in the name of his name which is YHWH according to you.See that Kathi. That is commonly called a contradiction.He came in YHWH's name and he didn't come in YHWH's name. Oxymoron Alert!Back to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2013,17:15)Another question that will show that I am not biased but it is you who are biased to really not want YHVH to be a name for Jesus.OXYMORON ALERT.”YHVH to be a name for Jesus.”quéJesus is his name and there is no other name under Heaven by which we can be saved. This is the name that the Father provided…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2013,17:10)t8,Can you show me a person that has the word YHVH along with a seperate word as part of a compound name that is a man other than Jesus? You have only given examples of people with a one word name where the 'Yah' is within it?This is a must answer question, t8.Maybe I can. But I can't be bothered researching…[Read more]

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    You need to overcome bias Kathi. Bias gives a warped view of things. You need to remove it in order to see the truth.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2013,19:20)Quote (t8 @ May 25 2013,02:05)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,19:58)Also, this debate is not over just because you are threatened. The t8 doctrine test is yet to come…I'll bet the readers will be enlightened by that.Ha ha. Bring it on. Those are fighting words.  :DI will!!  :blues:We will see. So far you have been k…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2013,19:17)Quote (t8 @ May 25 2013,02:04)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,19:55)Not so fast, t8. Please note that you did not answer this question:Tell me which one/ones aren't Jehovah:JEHOVAH JIREH         (Jehovah our Provider)JEHOVAH RAPHA        (Jehovah our Healer)JEHOVAH RAAH          (Jehovah our Shepherd)JEH…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2013,19:18)Quote (t8 @ May 23 2013,23:07)The question was, “did you know before he mentioned it”?And I answered your question with a yes!Congrats. I didn't. Then again, I wasn't closely following the debate either.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Debate Log in the forum Debates 13 years, 3 months ago

    2 Corinthians 4:42t8  versus Kangaroo JackOutcome:Kangaroo Jack lost this debate. He couldn't refute that 2 Corinthians 4:42 which speaks of the god of this age is Satan. He needed it to refer to the Almighty God in order to demonstrate that the word, 'theos' can only legitimately be used for the Trinity. He left the debate likely because he had…[Read more]

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    Quote (Colter @ May 25 2013,16:02)Rescuing Jesus means reestablishing his original Gospel before Paganized Christianity combined all the books to form the Bible idol.No doubt there is a huge amount of paganism in Christian tradition as well as many false teachings.But replacing the Bible with your one is not the solution, it only adds to the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,19:58)Also, this debate is not over just because you are threatened. The t8 doctrine test is yet to come…I'll bet the readers will be enlightened by that.Ha ha. Bring it on. Those are fighting words. :D

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    Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2013,19:55)Not so fast, t8. Please note that you did not answer this question:Tell me which one/ones aren't Jehovah:JEHOVAH JIREH (Jehovah our Provider)JEHOVAH RAPHA (Jehovah our Healer)JEHOVAH RAAH (Jehovah our Shepherd)JEHOVAH TSIDKENU (Jehovah our Righteousness)Don't know. You might as well…[Read more]

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    Cheers Mike.

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    Origen considered that John wrote his gospel in Greek.“We next notice John’s use of the article in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor is he unfamiliar with the niceties of the Greek tongue. In some cases he uses the article, and in some he omits it. He adds the article to the Word, but to the name of theos he add…[Read more]

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