Okay. Let's say you have a son. You might anyway.Did you create your son?No.Did God create your son through you and your wife?If so, then did God create alone in the sense that you understand. If not, then you need to adjust your understanding of 'He ALONE created the world'.You can make the same argument with Eve. Did God create Eve. Did God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2013,08:55)Is Jehovah the MOST HIGH god? YES or NO?Since the only honest answer is “YES”, the follow up question is: Can Jehovah possibly be the MOST HIGH god if there are no LESS HIGH gods for Him to be the god OF? YES or NO?Yes he is the most high God.It doesn't matter if it is saying that he is the Most High and…[Read more]

Mike, I was just doing some formatting to a page about the Trinity and what the second century father's taught. I thought I would re-quote this from Origen as I just read it.and so the Saviour says in His prayer to the Father, “That they may know You the only true God; “but that all beyond the autotheos (God) is made theos by participation in His…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2013,08:55)I don't believe they were literally JEHOVAH.  But tell me what words in that text tell you that Moses wasn't calling them literal gods.Maybe I should clarify. There is one who is God in identity. Actually Satan is also identified as a god too. Others are gods.If Moses was calling someone theos, then they…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,14:21)Quote (t8 @ July 01 2013,09:50)Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:39)2) The “AKJV Bible” was Authorized by the crown (James I) – acting in behalf of  YHVH.Thanks for keeping this humerous Ed J, as the topic states.So all that was authorised by the crown (James 1) is on behalf of YHVH?By that faulty logic, his witch…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ July 04 2013,10:47)Why do you think that over and over the apostles refer to Jesus as “the man” and “this man”? And yet, they never talk about the preexistence of Jesus?Because it was Jesus coming in the flesh that opened the way for his death and salvation of those who dwell in flesh. The New Testament is fixated on salvation and…[Read more]

Quote (jb2u @ July 04 2013,09:15)To me, verse 8 is a restatement of verse 6/7, just in a different order.I see it more as..1) He was created in the image of God. (in the womb)Let me clarify. You are saying that existing in the form of God means being created in the image of God in the womb. That means you existed in the form of God too.Four yes/no…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 01 2013,12:17)Right now, I wish we could all leave this other stuff behind for a minute, and focus on Phil 2.Fair enough.I usually like to start a conversation as being wide and then hone in on the individual points later. That way you show the connection to begin with rather than debate each scripture with the other guy…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2013,14:41)Deuteronomy 32:17They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.Are these demons being called gods by Moses?  Or do you suppose Moses was calling them “qualitatively god”?Yes they were qualitatively gods because people were…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2013,14:37)Jehovah is called “god” many times in the NT where there is no definite article written. During those times, is He being called “qualitatively god”?Jehovah is literally and qualitatively God.Satan is literally and qualitatively the Devil/devil.Adam is literally Adam and qualitatively adam.I could refer to…[Read more]

I agree that you can never really know given that many people say they know, but are so different that they obviously believe different things.

I know when I believed in the Trinity, I never understood it and rarely talked about it. But I certainly believed that Jesus Christ was the son of God and the messiah. On top of that, God moved in my…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ June 30 2013,03:11)Becareful T8 by using the nothing to something. Remember, your god was once unknown to the universe. Then along came man and choose the name, book, gender and attributes of your god. All the wonder and awe of the unknown was taken away. Now books are slammed, words are thrown around and blood is splattered. The…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2013,15:17)Are these beloved spirit sons of God “false gods”? Are they only “so-called gods”? Are they only “qualitatively gods”?Yes they are theos in a qualitative sense. Each is not a literal God. If that is the case, I could call myself a god if I believe that I am a son of God.Are you a god?