Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,12:12)T.I know My bible is the true bible.Because the whole picture is in there,with no distortions.You of course dont know, because you have never seen the true picrure.A distorted picture will do; as long it looks like a picture.Full of gaps and empty blank spaces.That will do,and see that as a complete picture.We…[Read more]

Colter and others. Please refrain from quoting all the time. I personally cannot follow a conversation, when I have to sift through 70% noise or repetition.Most of the time, a normal post is better. It stands out and is easier to read. If you are replying to a post from further back, then yes you can quote. It is even better if you quote the exact…[Read more]

Nobody knows the extent of free will. And is it free will if it is just a movie.

Wakeup, you don't have to quote in every post. Many give up following conversations that are 70% quotes. They do not flow to well. Most of the time, you can just make a normal post. I am thinking of disabling quoting to get a better flow happening. But would not need to do that if you and others stopped this practice in every single post.Thanks…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 25 2013,23:43)Philippians 2:6New International Version (NIV)6 Who, being in very nature God,   did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;well it says there that Christ is God. WHO, BEING IN VERY NATURE GODsee that t8? Christ has the same nature just like his father. nature GOD.Jammin, this…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2013,03:04)T8……….Tell me this why do you understanding the Jesus is not a God then say he was a God *the word” mentioned in John 1:1.?peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………….geneYour not paying attention Gene because I do not say that.

Colter, you have rejected the gospel and the one whom God has sent. It's your life, but your soul is loved by God. But he cannot force you to be one with him. You need to choose him and continue to align with him. There are many things you do not understand. We all struggle to see the big picture of course and God's vision is much greater than…[Read more]

Yes we do go through tribulations and history testifies to that. But we are spared the judgements that God pours out on the wicked as testified by John.Matthew 24:29-31“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens w…[Read more]

God permits the lack of himself so that beings possessing free will can choose him or not. This is how love works. Love requires a choice. Simple as that. If we choose him, we can then live with him forever. As you say, in the big picture, there will only be good. We both know that all the works of evil are destroyed in the end. So there will be…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,11:31)T.You said God can NOT DO CERTAIN THINGS,but no scriptures.I say God can do everything,but He chose not to dosome of those things.Your God is limited,He can not do everything.Show us the scriptures.wakeup.Can God be the lack of himself? He is love, light, truth, and he is good. Can he lack these because hatred,…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,14:49)1.The Word of God is now next to his father.2.The apostles are well informmed,they knew Jesus was the   Son of God,not God.THOU ART THE MESSIAH;THE SON OF   GOD. *ON THIS ROCK (FOUDATION) WILL I BUILD MY   CHURCH*.   They also understood that Jesus is the Word of God in the   flesh. But this full unde…[Read more]

Also Gene, God saved us through Jesus while he was in the flesh (after he existed in the form of God and emptied himself). I don't think anyone is disputing that he was a man.What is disputed is that he came into existence 2000 years ago. We believe that he is the firstborn of all creation, that he existed before Abraham, and that he was with God…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 13 2014,16:44)T8……….How can you say we believe God just “INSTANTLY” Created another human to save all humans? It was planned by God, from the very beginning of his human creation to do that, nothing “INSTANT” about it. It all was in the will and foreknowledge of God  from the start. Jesus' genealogy is listed in…[Read more]

The reason why it is impossible for God to be evil is because God is 100% good, he is light, he is truth, he is love. Evil is the absense of these things, thus evil is that which is not God. The only reason such a condition is possible is to provide free will. If God didn't allow the absence of him, then we could not truly love him because there…[Read more]

Yes Mike. They believe that God instantly created another human to save all humans. So now that they are together in Heaven, they are getting to know each other I suppose.The truth is, God created all things through Jesus Christ. This no one can deny who takes scripture seriously. Thus, it is fitting that God also redeems using the same one by…[Read more]

Yes mike, there are so many references to Christ pre-existing, that it is a surprise that one would conclude that he did not exist before being found in the flesh. Rejection of the Trinity is only useful if one is pursuing the truth about who God is. But rejection for the sake of rejection leads men to not know to what extent they should reject a…[Read more]

Although not advertised on the site, there is a copy of the Book of Jasher here for study purposes rather than promotional purposes. I do not know if the book is genuine and I haven't actually read it either.https://heavennet.net/writings/book-of-jasher/

A son who does not come from a father but is as eternally old as his father is not a son, but more of a brother than a son. A son comes from a father. A father is older than a son. A son can be like his father, but he originates from his father.Basic stuff, but Babylon has a way of confusing people and drawing them away from simplicity in Christ.