Quote (david @ Mar. 14 2014,10:24)If I beat you as some weird method to get you to move out of the way of a moving vehicle then you would be happy.  (I would probably just yell: “hey, look out,” or push you.). What if rather than me beating you to save your life I was bearing you for these types of reasons:PROVERBS 26:3A whip for the horse, a…[Read more]

KJ, you are back. Can we finish this debate?https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=360

Moved to Truth or Tradition because this appears to no longer be a debate between set people.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2014,05:03)So the question can be “Can Adam himself be with Adam himself?” The answer is Yes!In English we often use capitals where the Greek uses the definite article.”Can adam himself be with Adam himself? Yes. A man can be with THE Man.

Quote (david @ Mar. 13 2014,15:45)Ya. Torture isn't good.  If I beat you with a stick is that torture?As for misunderstanding, that is why I ask and discuss.  What am I misunderstanding.I haven't studied scripture regarding these questions you ask as much as other subjects. But I will converse anyway in the hope that I too learn something.To y…[Read more]

Regarding the whole killing thing we read about in scripture, I would like to add that there is a whole subject that is hardly ever preached that relates to some or much of these puzzeling Bible verses. It is that of the Nephilim. It is a bigger subject than most realise and the JWs may not teach anything on this, or may hold to the 'sons of Seth'…[Read more]

@ David. I didn't say you did say this or that. I am making general statements on the subject.

That first video is excellent. Haven't seen the second. And I think this is the right forum to put these in.

David I would argue that slavery is the default. We are slaves to something. God, sin, the Devil, money, whatever.However, not all slavery is bad as you say. I agree that torture is not good, but death is not necessarily bad.If there exists a civilisation or culture that puts babies onto a burning hot idol as a sacrifice, then death that culture…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2014,17:19)Hi T8,  so is your answer “Yes” then?   …Or is your answer “No”?Do YOU consider the “AKJV Bible” Scripture?Certainly answering “Yes” – “No” – or “I don't know” cannot be that difficult.After all it is your rule, certainly you can follow you own rule, can you not? I can always start another thread in “The Hot S…[Read more]

The rod of correction is also not necessarily a device for beating someone or something. God corrects me and I don't remember the last time I was beaten by him. Point being it is any method which corrects us, steadies us, or warns us to move the other way. Scripture uses metaphors that men understand. Back in the day before modern technology, many…[Read more]

Choosing to be a slave to a good master is a good thing if the master is the only one who can provide what it is you need.Today we are slaves to the bank masters who own our mortgages. We are slaves to Credit Card companies. We are slaves to our employer. When the word slave is used, I guess people just picture 12 years a slave or the history of…[Read more]

I can't be bothered reading the detail of your answer Ed J, I am not sure if the devil is in the detail and can't be bothered to get a lawyer to look it over. It is simple, if you give me a truthful answer as to this apparent contradiction, then yes I will remove the tile. An acceptable answer would be admitting you were wrong, or explaining how…[Read more]

Is slavery wrong? No.Is forced slavery wrong? Yes.We should be slaves of Christ. But we choose to serve him. He doesn't force us to serve him.That is my view now without delving deep into scripture regarding it.

Wakeup. God does all things. And he does them through…God created you. And through your parents. God doesn't walk around with a hammer making things.Also, the son was the Word who became flesh.

Might be watching Riddick tonight. But would never consider that serious reading/watching. And certainly no substitute for scripture. Will there ever be a Urantia movie?

Quote (Colter @ Feb. 13 2014,11:02)* If steps could be taken to stop prophecy then it wasn't prophecy   * Some of the OT prophecies didn't come true because they weren’t true. * God is open to all who seek him, he doesn’t blind people and then punish them for being blind. If you had any real spiritual insight you would see how stupid that teac…[Read more]