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Proclaimer replied to the topic What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 3 months ago
I am becoming even more confused. In my understanding, there was ONLY God in the beginning. There existed NO OTHER living, sentient entity except for God Himself. Then came the day that God created “Wisdom/The Word/Jesus” as the first of His creative works. So we went from one living, sentient entity to TWO living, sentient ent…
Proclaimer replied to the topic What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 3 months ago
Can you explain to me in your view how Jesus was rich and became poor?
2 Corinthians 8:9
For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.Can you explain how he existed in the form of God, but emptied himself, taking the form…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 3 months ago
Please explain. Does this mean “The Word” has existed FOR ETERNITY “in God”, and is in fact a “part of God”? Because these are the things Wakeup claims.
I am not sure what Wakeup subscribes to here exactly, but the word is an attribute of God, just as wisdom is, and as light is. They are still attributes and always will be. They we…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 12 years, 3 months ago
I am afraid you have been deceived regarding this. This verse is only found in the KJV and is about the closest verse in the Bible that hints at a Trinity, yet this verse is not actually scripture, rather a footnote that was inserted into some texts fraudulently.
Google “Comma Johanneum” or visit the Wikipedia page on…[Read more]
Proclaimer started the topic The Electric Universe in the forum Evidence for the Bible 12 years, 3 months ago
Challenging the myths of Science and Astronomy.
Video by Chuck Missler.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Similarities with God Jesus & Us in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 3 months ago
1 John 1:5
This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.John 8:12
When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”Matthew 5:14-16
14 “You are the light of the world…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Similarities with God Jesus & Us in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 3 months ago
John 10:29-30
29 “My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30″I and the Father are one.”John 17:20-21
20 “I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word;
21 that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I…[Read more]Proclaimer started the topic Similarities with God Jesus & Us in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 3 months ago
Most arguments made in order to support the Trinity Doctrine involve a play on words. A recent example that came to light is Isaiah 8:12-15 and 1 Peter 2 where YHWH says he is a stone of stumbling and in Peter we see this stone of stumbling as Jesus Christ. Another would be where it says that God is light and later Jesus proclaims that he is the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 3 months ago
The first obvious thing to point out is that when God decides to become something such as a rock of offense, he personally doesn’t turn up as that rock, but sends his messenger. We see in other scriptures that God is light. But he sends Jesus into the world and Jesus proclaims that “he is the light of the world”. When he is about to leave, he…[Read more]
Proclaimer started the topic Does 1 Peter 2 imply that Jesus is God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 3 months ago
While I could have placed this topic into Scripture and Biblical teaching, it is more suited to here because the focus is on debunking this verse as a support verse for the Trinity or Binity.
Feel free to add more info on debunking this so-called proof verse.
Our resident Binitarian states that 1 Peter 2 supposedly identifies Jesus as the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 3 months ago
God is light. Jesus is the light of the world. We are the light of the world. Hello, we are all God or gods right? Well taking your thinking process then yes. But obviously a faulty way of thinking.
What is said of God is very often said of Jesus. Why is that? Because he is like God. So like God that he is the image of God. And because he does…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 3 months ago
What, someone gave God all authority? So one part of God gave the other all authority. This is silly. I don’t see anyone taking your teaching seriously. But by all means, carry on with the free entertainment.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 3 months ago
But your doctrine implies it. If Jesus is God and Jesus died, then God died. You have to accept that as part of your doctrinal package. And you need to come up with another theory to explain it. Perhaps 50% God and 50% man and the 50% man died. But then you have to also explain the resurrection. Did the 50% man rise from the dead? Lies always…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 3 months ago
God has divine nature. And our bodies will be like Jesus’s body. It is written that we can partake in divine nature. So if we can partake in his nature, then how much more the son of God who is the fullness of the deity in bodily form.
God is first a person or identity. He possesses a nature and has many attributes. To have this nature or any of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 3 months ago
I read this on that page Kerwin.
l (as related words like spirit, flesh, and heart) is a complex word that is used in numerous ways in the Bible. Context must be considered in order to determine how the word is being used in any given place. Although I believe the Bible clearly teaches the three-part nature of man (as being body, soul, and…
Proclaimer replied to the topic What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 3 months ago
Yes, Wakeup. I agree. The Word that was IN God, he begat, and then the Word was WITH God. And God made all things through him and for him.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 3 months ago
People who believe that Jesus is God, believe that God died. You are right, who was looking after things when God died? The folly of the Trinity, Binity, or Jesus is God is self-evident. It shouldn’t even be a point of discussion, but some how folly followed folly and now probably over a billion people believe in the Trinity. It is one of the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 3 months ago
Where in scripture does it say that
He can make a man from an already existing spirit being.
Why would he?God created Eve from Adam. Eve is part of man. Eve was adam/man. So while man is the head of woman, Christ is the head of the man.
However, I am not sure of the point. Who is saying that God created Jesus from another person?…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 3 months ago
Kerwin. Jesus came in the flesh. Before that, he existed in the form of God, and he emptied himself. In other words, he was rich, but he became poor for our sakes.
After he appeared in the flesh, he was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, and was taken up in glory. This is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 3 months ago
Thanks for your comment Rebecca. It is nice to get encouragement from time to time. 🙂
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