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    lol LU.

    The Father who is God has given all things to the son who he made Lord and Christ.

    The term theos is applied to many. Just because Jesus is higher in authority than any other who is legitimately described as theos does not give you any special right to create a Binity or doctrine that teaches that God is two.

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    lol LU.

    The Father who is God has given all things to the son who he made Lord and Christ.

    The term theos is applied to many. Just because Jesus is higher in authority than any other who is legitimately described as theos does not give you any special right to create a Binity or doctrine that teaches that God is two.

    Regardless, the Father is…[Read more]

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    Thanks Mary for the positive feedback. 🙂

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 11 years, 11 months ago

    So of the 2000 year old body, that is just a shell. The real Yeshua is the Spirit?
    And is that spirit the Holy Spirit? Jesus own spirit?

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    lol guys. Everything but Jesus being taken up into glory.

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    Let us assume the wording “God was manifest in the flesh” is correct. Then the word manifest either means ” readily perceived by the senses and especially by the sense of sight” or “easily understood or recognized by the mind” neither of which literally means that God inhabited human flesh. So I do not see where anyone can get the idea that Jesus…

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    Yes if it actually said that, then that could be the only view so as to not contradict the rest of scripture.

    But taken on its own and ignoring all context and the rest of scripture it could mean Jesus was God though. But we know that it was the Word that became flesh and that Yeshua came in the flesh. Also, the scripture says, “he” and he was…[Read more]

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    Yes if it actually said that, then that could be the only view so as to not contradict the rest of scripture.

    But taken on its own and ignoring all context and the rest of scripture it could mean Jesus was God though. But we know that it was the Word that became flesh and that Yeshua came in the flesh. Also, the scripture says, “he” and he was…[Read more]

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    Yes if it actually said that, then that could be the only view so as to not contradict the rest of scripture.

    But taken on its own and ignoring all context and the rest of scripture it could mean Jesus was God though. But we know that it was the Word that became flesh and that Yeshua came in the flesh. Also, the scripture says, “he” and he was…[Read more]

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    c)

    So the Spirit went up into glory and came back down?

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    b)

    i) So the Spirit was taken up into glory and also stayed?
    ii) So the Spirit was taken up into glory and did not stay with God’s people?

    And where does it say that the spirit was taken up into glory? I cannot think of a scripture off hand.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 11 years, 11 months ago

    No it was a passing comment. Someone was discussing pre-existence of humans and said you taught this. I was adding to what you teach so that they could ascertain whether your view was worthy. It is normal to measure things like this. When we discuss radical Muslims for example, we may note that they believe in killing non-muslims. It helps to see…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 11 years, 11 months ago

    No it was a passing comment. Someone was discussing pre-existence of humans and said you taught this. I was adding to what you teach so that they could ascertain whether your view was worthy. It is normal to measure things like this. When we discuss Muslims for example, we may note that they believe in killing non-muslims. It helps to see if their…[Read more]

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    Was not the Spirit with the people and is today with many people?

    Your view of the Holy Spirit being taken up can only mean the Spirit is not here now.

    Jesus said when he left, he would send another to his people, called the comforter.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 11 years, 11 months ago

    According to Ed we did!

    Ed also believes that the AKJV is perfect or near perfect translation and it is so accurate that it is full of English Gematria that is proof that there is a God. I also think he believes that he is mentioned in the Bible and he says that God is four. Not Trinity, not Binity, but four-a-ty/quadrinity or something.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 11 years, 11 months ago

    According to Ed we did!

    Ed also believes that the AKJV is perfect or near perfect translation and it is so accurate that it is full of English Gematria that is proof that there is a God. I also think he believes that he is mentioned in the Bible and he says that God is four. NOt Trinity, not Binity, but four-a-ty/quadrinity or something.

    The…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 11 years, 11 months ago

    According to Ed we did!

    Ed also believes that the AKJV is perfect or near perfect translation and it is so accurate that it is full of English Gematria that is proof that there is a God.

    The best proof of God is a relationship with God. Those who have that are growing in the faith and they are led into truth.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 11 years, 11 months ago

    I remember my mother calling me an angel when I was very young. Evidence?

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    I am in touch with many people who believe that nearly everything on the news is a conspiracy by the Zionists. I often wonder how much of this is really the result of too much paranoia resulting from too much marijuana coupled with jealousy at the success of Jews and the hatred of their own failures.

    I say this because none of them seem to love…[Read more]

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    I am in touch with many people who believe that nearly everything on the news is a conspiracy by the Zionists. I often wonder how much of this is really the result of too much paranoia resulting from too much marijuana coupled with jealousy at the success of Jews and the hatred of their own failures.

    I say this because none of them seem to love…[Read more]

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