Just to be clear, I don’t think it means that.

Adam….. What you said in your last post is apsolutly correct. IF WHAT THEY SAY about Jesus is true then it would mean “nothing” to any real human being at all, we could never relate with him on a “real human level”, it would just be like a carnavial game of smoke and mirrors . God playing deception games with humanity.

Incorrect. I am a norm…[Read more]

Isn’t it funny when some argue against this topic titled:

Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ?

And try and justify it using the Bible while ignoring the following verse along with many others that say the same thing.

Hebrews 1:1-2
1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various…[Read more]

@gadam123

What is your no1 flat earth bible verse?

@mikeboll64 says his verse is the circle of the earth. Lol. True story.

Looking forward to your answer gadam.

Jesus is not co-creator  God is the creator. God made all things through and for the son of God. If there was no son or sons/inhabitants,  then God probably wouldn’t have created the universe.

Mike lost this debate. He has no answers to the evidence given in this topic. He is speechless. Gobsmacked. Stunned.

When it’s summer in the southern hemisphere, or outer rim, the sun would have to cover a far greater distance in 24 hours than when it is on its tighter circle when its summer in the northern hemisphere or inner ring. It would have to travel faster along the sky to cover this increased distance.

Adam…….exactly right! If Jesus was a perfect “preexisting being” of any kind , and then come to earth “disguised” as a human being, it would prove apsolutely “nothing” to anyone.

Incorrect Gene.

First off, it is not a disguise. He emptied himself and came in the flesh.

Secondly, such a being who was first with God and came to be with us a…[Read more]

How it feels to be on the receiving end of an ignorant flat earther
I’m from NZ, so from my observation and experience, if the earth was flat, this would be the map. It agrees with my travel experience between NZ and South America as well as witnesses I know who have been to the South pole and Antarctica in general.

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BUT WHAT IF THE MICAH PROPHECY HAD SAID THIS…

IN THE EVENING OF THE FIRST DAY OF REBUILDING YOUR WALLS, PEOPLE WILL COME TO YOU FROM ASSYRIA, AND BY THE MORNING OF THE SECOND DAY OF REBUILDING YOUR WALLS, THEY WILL BEGIN TO ARRIVE FROM THE CITIES OF EGYPT.

THEN WOULD WE BE TALKING ABOUT LITERAL DAYS?  YES OR NO?

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Please remove posts #932390 and #932418 from this thread.  They are not related to our current discussion, nor the topic of this thread in general.

This discussion is called “The Bible vs Scientism”. Those posts are very on topic Mike.

My Question

The verse you presented DOESN’T have a numerical value (a number) attributed to the word “day”. And it DOESN’T contain the word “morning”. It does contain the Greek word “phósphoros”, in its ONLY use in the entire Bible. It literally means “the bringing of light” or “radiant/radiance”. It is translated as “day-star” and “morning…

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I’m from NZ, so from my observation and experience, if the earth was flat, this would be the map.

Mike’s teachings on Flat earth has been well and truly debunked. All that is left is for him to crucify his pride and admit the truth when it is presented to him. His call as to what manner of man he wants to be.

Look i am not here saying Jesus is “nothing”, he certanly is a glorified Son,  of our heavenly Father, a real prototype of what God our  Father,  has and had in mind, when he created “mankind”,  in the first place.

Scripture is clear. He is THE protype son. The first. All things were created through him and for him. He was WITH God before the u…[Read more]

More observational proof of the globe
This is Mt Taranaki again. Just a reminder. It sits on a peninsula. It is not an island.

Our current understanding of the universe requires a creator all the more.

Atheists would have an easier time with the odds if there was only a floating pizza.

Simple.