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    Gene, let your yes be yes and no be no.

    Did God let man eat FREELY from any tree in the Garden of Eden with the exception of one tree?

    Yes

    No

    ?

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    Gene, let your yes be yes and no be no.

    Did God let man eat FREELY from any tree in the Garden of Eden with the exception of one tree?

    Yes

    No

    ?

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    Understand that I am not accusing you of anything. I am trying to understand why you hold this view contrary to what scripture teaches and demonstrates. I had a guess and used words like perhaps and maybe. Where did I ever say otherwise. I mean really how would I know if this was the case or not? But now you have me wondering all the more.…[Read more]

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    Gene, let your yes be yes and no be no.

    Did God let man eat FREELY from any tree in the Garden of Eden with the exception of one tree?

    Yes

    No

    ?

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    Gene, let your yes be yes and no be no.

    Did God FREELY let man eat from any tree in the Garden of Eden with the exception of one tree?

    Yes

    No

    ?

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    t8 posted on t8test‘s wall 11 years, 9 months ago

    @t8test Test.

    Read this file.

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    Gene, did God allow man to FREELY choose to eat from any tree in the garden except one?

    Yes or no.

    If you say yes, then you agree that God give us the ability to choose freely among options tha the makes available to us.

    If you answer no, then you oppose that verse in Genesis.

    Which is wrong? That verse in Genesis or you?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

    Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

    Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

    Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

    Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    scriptures do not say that the eight is of THE SEVENTH it says that he is of the SEVEN meaning from 1-7 all inclusive ,and that is what scriptures says for the second resurrection includes all people that died from the beginning of time till the time of the end of the 1000 years ;

    Thanks for your explanation here. I reread the verse and the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 9 months ago

    Thanks for your post Kerwin. Whatever he says about the will of man,  scripture says that man was FREE to eat from any tree in the garden. He clearly opposes this in order to preserve one of his pet doctrines.

    Gene, when God said to man, “You can freely eat from any tree in the garden”, was he not telling us the truth. And by denying that we a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 9 months ago

    Gene, when God said to man, “You can freely eat from any tree in the garden”, was he not telling us the truth. And by denying that we are not free to choose, then you are correcting God. You are basically saying, “excuse me God, we are not free to eat from any tree, our wills are captive., and we cannot choose freely”.

    That is right, you are…[Read more]

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    Yes Gene, we all have sin and especially me. But my heart is to serve God and to not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. I fail many times. But I have a covenant with God that when I do sin, I can confess my sins and he will forgive me because he said he will.

    I brought this up Gene because you are so bent on the idea that God did not allow men to…[Read more]

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    Yes Gene, we all have sin and especially me. But my heart is to serve God and to not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. I fail many times. But I have a covenant with God that when I do sin, I can confess my sins and he will forgive me because he said he will.

    I brought this up Gene because you are so bent on the idea that God did not allow men to…[Read more]

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    Gene, you deny that we can choose freely among the allowable choices. So that means that Adam and Eve could not freely eat from any tree in the garden.

    Case closed Gene because you clearly deny scripture that teaches and demonstrates that men can choose freely and choose God or choose the flesh and the world.

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    Gene, you deny that we can choose freely among the allowable choices. So that means that Adam and Eve could not freely eat from any tree in the garden.

    Case closed Gene because you clearly deny scripture.

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    Are we required to be either Jesus or a prophet of God in order to use the scriptures for “teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness”? (2 Tim 3:16)

    Believe me, it is the IDEAS that I rebuke scripturally – not their character. But in the process of rebuking one of their ideas that they really, really WANT to be the scrip…

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