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    1) Ottoman and Byzantine Empires both had the same capitals.

    The city fell to the Ottomans. It was taken over. Historians generally consider this to be the moment that the Ottomans had an empire.

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    You obviously define an empire as a location, when the Bible describes each head of the Beast as a different people. The locations are pretty much the same with all heads, with them being located in the Middle East.

    Also, please read the theory, it doesn’t teach that ISIS is the Ottoman Empire. I think you ask these silly questions over and over…[Read more]

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    You obviously define an empire as a location, when the Bible describes each head of the Beast as a different people. The locations are pretty much the same will all heads, with them predominantly in the Middle East.

    Also, please read the theory, it doesn’t teach that ISIS is the Ottoman Empire. I think you ask these silly questions over and o…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Here is the theory:

    Is Islam the Beast?

    Please read it before you embarrass yourself further.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    The ottoman empire is dead and buried; the breath is taken out of it.

    You say this as if to mean that I am teaching that it is alive and well. Again you could not be more wrong.

    This topic is putting forward a theory that says that this head received a deadly wound.

    Could I ask that both yourself and Kerwin read the theory first before asking…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    The ottoman empire is dead and buried; the breath is taken out of it.

    You say this as if to mean that I am teaching that it is alive and well. Again you could not be more wrong.

    This topic is putting forward a theory that says that this head received a deadly wound.

    Could I ask that both yourself and Kerwin read the theory first before asking…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Islam is set up by the British empire to divide the middle eastern nations, and are still doing it today.

    The Islamic Empire and Islam predate the British Empire. Did the British travel back in time?

    How about some decent discussion on this view. If I hear one more comment like this, I will… I don’t know what I will do. But something has to be…[Read more]

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    Wakeup, you have no proof of your interpretations that are yet to happen. They are merely your opinions.

    Yes you should be silent instead of teaching things that are just your view.

    By all means put your theories forward, that is what these forums are for.

    But be clear that they are theories and ideas that you think fit the…[Read more]

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    Yes, history shows us that these empires succeeded the previous one with a different government, different religion, and different people. Roman and Ottoman was no different.

    With the Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire we had a transfer of power from Greek speaking people where a version of Christianity was an official religion to to people who…[Read more]

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    All will be chipped by March 2013.

    Another thing, this whole topic and video is showing me where you get some of your ideas. They are worldly.

    To see the truth is not about taking worldly news and drawing conclusions from it. Look at scripture and see what has happened in the world and what could happen. For that which is to happen, often it…[Read more]

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    Wakeup, you made it the heading of the topic and you stated it again in the post.

    But my advice stands. If you teach things as if they are so, then they have to be true.

    But you are allowed to highlight a theory, say something might be true, or quote statements elsewhere, but make sure you are not preaching them as absolute truth.

    I had you up…[Read more]

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    Wakeup, your post proves to me you are unwilling to change. That is a shame.

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    Wakeup, you made it the heading of the topic and you stated it again in the post.

    But my advice stands. If you teach things as if they are so, then they have to be true.

    But you are allowed to highlight a theory, say something might be true, or quote statements elsewhere, but make sure you are not preaching them as absolute truth.

    I had you up…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    I agree. All these empires had great influence. No debating that. I assumed that we would all be on the same page with that one. It wouldn’t be an empire if it didn’t have great influence.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 11 years, 9 months ago

    Thanks for posting this scripture.

    First thing that I noticed is the term: ” it was visible to the ends of the earth”. In another scripture regarding Rome it said, it will trample the whole Earth. This opens up the flood of Noah as being local to that area of the world if the whole Earth is that region where the Beast sits.

    Second thing is tha…[Read more]

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    You just love to see me fail don’t you; just like many here.
    But no; I will not fail.

    I don’t want anyone to fall, this is why I post this. I point out the truth that the Lord did not speak to you regarding this and if anyone has any sense, they will also consider the possibility of your other views as also failing in like manner.

    Scripture is…[Read more]

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    Wakeup as far as your views on the cashless society I heard all this before even as far back as the early eighties. It is nothing new. I think we have all heard it before, and I believe it will happen. But will it lead to the mark of the Beast, you teach yes, I say it might, but be open to it being something else, lest you take the mark because…[Read more]

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    Wakeup as far as your views on the cashless society I heard all this before even as far back as the early eighties. It is nothing new. I think we have all heard it before, and I believe it will happen. But will it lead to the mark of the Beast, you teach yes, I say it might, but be open to it being something else, lest you take the mark because…[Read more]

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    Wakeup, I do not want to see you fall. I warn people beforehand to stop them from falling. If I wanted you to fall, I would never warn you of anything and wait for you to walk into a trap.

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    I don’t want anyone to fall, this is why I post this. I point out the truth that the Lord did not speak to you regarding this and if anyone has any sense, they will also consider the possibility of your other views as also failing in like manner.

    Scripture is used for reproof, correction, etc. When we use scripture this way, it is not done so a p…[Read more]

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