Where was it that you asked me if Jesus had power ‘over God’ and where was it that I said that Jesus didn’t have power over God implying that God had power over Him?

It went straight over your head then.

I will explain it to you. I quoted your post to Terr. Then replaced it with God and Jesus to see if what you implied correlated with God and J…[Read more]

Gene
Jesus IS the image of the invisible God. I didn’t have to invent Him as an image of God. Your problem is with scripture, not with me.

An image is not literally the thing that the image reflects. That is basic knowledge.

Jesus is the image of the invisible God. He is not God himself, that is clear.

You can’t have it both ways. He is e…[Read more]

Okay, I can see we are going off topic here (including myself).

I would rather be with the ‘us’ that has both, the ‘God of gods’ and the ‘Lord of lords’, the one and mighty God-Jehovah who IS both.

You admit outright that for you there is two who are God.

But Apostle Paul teaches, “For ‘us’ there is one God the Father”.

You are not ‘us’. That much is clear.

Jesus said that eternal life was to know the ON…[Read more]

Anyway, I fully believe that Jesus has always been the Son of the one true God and thus an eternal part of Him…an offspring part.

You do not know what a son is or offspring is given your definition of the word in your teaching. If you have the wrong meaning of that word, then how can you believe that God has a son if you don’t know what a son o…[Read more]

Anyway, I fully believe that Jesus has always been the Son of the one true God and thus an eternal part of Him…an offspring part.

You do not know what a son is or offspring is given your definition of the word in your teaching. If you have the wrong meaning of that word, then how can you believe that God has a son if you don’t know what a son o…[Read more]

Yes, I understand that a muslim disagrees with me in regards to who is Christ. If he agrees with your doctrine, wouldn’t that worry you?

If a muslim says that there is one true God, then I agree. If he says the one true God does not have a son, then I disagree that his God is YHWH.

If a Christian says that there is one true God, then I agree. I…[Read more]

If he agrees with your doctrine, wouldn’t that worry you?

If a muslim says that there is one true God, then I agree. If he says the one true God does not have a son, then I disagree that his God is YHWH.

If a Christian says that there is one true God, then I agree. If she says that the one true God comprises of two persons, then I also disagree f…[Read more]

If he agrees with your doctrine, wouldn’t that worry you?

If a muslim says that there is one true God, then I agree. If he says the one true God does not have a son, then I disagree that his God is YHWH.

If a Christian says that there is one true God, then I agree. If she says that the one true God comprises of two persons, then I also disagree f…[Read more]

If he agrees with your doctrine, wouldn’t that worry you?

If a muslim says that there is one true God, then I agree. If he says the one true God does not have a son, then I disagree.

If a Christian says that there is one true God, then I agree. If she says that the one true God comprises of two persons, then I also disagree because I believe t…[Read more]

@GeneBalthrop

T8……YES, there are many “so-called” GOD’S, but that does not make any of them “TRUE” GOD’S Big or little gods.

I don’t think I have ever said that. What I am saying is that some say that all others who are called theos or elohim are false theos or false elohim.

If an earthquake is elohim, then is the earthquake God or a false god?…[Read more]

@GeneBalthrop

T8……YES, there are many “so-called” GOD’S, but that does not make any of them “TRUE” GOD’S Big or little gods.

I don’t think I have ever said that. What I am saying is that some say that all others who are called theos or elohim are false theos or false elohim.

If an earthquake is elohim, then is the earthquake God or a false god?…[Read more]

T8……YES, there are many “so-called” GOD’S, but that does not make any of them “TRUE” GOD’S Big or little gods.

I don’t think I have ever said that. What I am saying is that some say that all others who are called theos or elohim are false theos or false elohim.

If an earthquake is elohim, then is the earthquake God or a false god? Neither is…[Read more]

T8……YES, there are many “so-called” GOD’S, but that does not make any of them “TRUE” GOD’S Big or little gods.

I don’t think I have ever said that. What I am saying is that some say that all others who are called theos or elohim are false theos or false elohim.

If an earthquake is elohim, then is the earthquake God or a false god? Neither is…[Read more]

T8……YES, there are many “so-called” GOD’S, but that does not make any of them “TRUE” GOD’S Big or little gods.

I don’t think I have ever said that. What I am saying is that some say that all others who are called theos or elohim are false theos or false elohim.

If an earthquake is elohim, then is the earthquake God or a false god? Neither is…[Read more]

That is true Nick, but are you saying that Mila has not?

@Lightenup

No, t8, Jesus does not have power “over” the Father, Jesus IS the Power OF the Father…and it is through that power (Jesus) that the Father created the world and saves those men who have made that ‘power’ (Jesus) the Lord of their lives.

Thanks for setting that up for me, btw. 🙂

If you understood my post, then you would realise t…[Read more]

No, t8, Jesus does not have power “over” the Father, Jesus IS the Power OF the Father…and it is through that power (Jesus) that the Father created the world and saves those men who have made that ‘power’ (Jesus) the Lord of their lives.

Thanks for setting that up for me, btw. 🙂

If you understood my post, then you would realise the futility…[Read more]

@Anastas

Just as a viceroy is king to everyone but the true king, Christ has the name of God and is God in that we see the true God through him, yet is himself not the true God.

Yes he is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. Of course many including some here beg to differ. They say he is God and always existed. Others…[Read more]

Good post kerwin.