Jesus came from God
He is not the Father – but is ONE with the Father

I agree with you for once.

Jesus is of God and God is the Father. That is why Jesus is called the Son OF God.

Jesus is not his own Father right.

Note the term son of God. Yes he is the son of the Father, but that is the same as saying Son of God.

Hi T8,
To clarify the spirit given to men and animals belongs to God and that of men returns to Him
But men do not share in the Holy Spirit of God unless God chooses to do so.

Agreed.

Jesus (shell/body) + Word of God = Jesus Christ?

https://youtu.be/ZUMM96hsmJA

@kerwin

t8,
Islam does not prohibit use of the word Father to refer to God. They also claim God has many sons. They do not except the idea that Jesus was the offspring of God’s body. I do not even think they agree with your idea as it is equivalent of claiming Jesus is the bodily child of God.

Scripture says that the Antichrist spirit denies t…[Read more]

t8,

Islam does not prohibit use of the word Father to refer to God. They also claim God has many sons. They do not except the idea that Jesus was the offspring of God’s body. I do not even think they agree with your idea as it is equivalent of claiming Jesus is the bodily child of God.

Scripture says that the Antichrist spirit denies the Father a…[Read more]

t8,

Islam does not prohibit use of the word Father to refer to God. They also claim God has many sons. They do not except the idea that Jesus was the offspring of God’s body. I do not even think they agree with your idea as it is equivalent of claiming Jesus is the bodily child of God.

Scripture says that the Antichrist spirit denies the Father a…[Read more]

t8,

Islam does not prohibit use of the word Father to refer to God. They also claim God has many sons. They do not except the idea that Jesus was the offspring of God’s body. I do not even think they agree with your idea as it is equivalent of claiming Jesus is the bodily child of God.

Scripture says that the Antichrist spirit denies the F…[Read more]

@DavidL

If Jesus is God and the son of God, then by reason of the Trinity Doctrine, the Father who is also God (I agree) must then be the Father of God.

One God three persons basically says:

God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
&
The Father of God
The Son of God
The Spirit of God.

Why is the Father not the Father of God if all…[Read more]

t8 uses a lot of stolen arguments to bolster his false doctrine…he takes this verse (out of context) because it is the same one Arius used to try and deny the trinity centuries ago..

@DavidL, are you aware that the measure you judge is the same that you will be judged by. You say that I steal Arius’s argument.

Please list exactly the argument I…[Read more]

@bodhitharta

To be fair, you do not believe in the Father because your book says God has no son. Thus to adhere to your book, you have to deny the Father and Son. If there is no Son, there is no Father.

@DavidL

Bod has a good point above.

The Trinity Doctrine is wrong and leads to other false assumptions DavidL.

@DavidL

Bod has a good point above.

Additionally, if Jesus is God and the son of God, then by reason of the Trinity Doctrine, the Father who is also God (I agree) must then be the Father of God.

One God three persons basically says:

God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
&
The Father of God
The Son of God
The Spirit of God.

Why is the…[Read more]

Well I guess the obvious thing to state is that we should not say people are false prophets unless we know that they have prophesied falsely. After all the definition of a false prophet is that they are not a true prophet, yet they prophesy as if they were a prophet.

From the little I have researched on the guy he has been spot on. He prophesied…[Read more]

Your second point is an interesting one.

Lord YHWH and Lord Jesus.

Lord is not the same word as I understand it.

LORD = YHWH in the Old Testament and Lord is Kurios in the New Testament.

Many think that translating YHWH into LORD was a silly idea as it confuses things. I tend to see their point.

Why not just translate as YHWH?

The Lord…[Read more]

Your second point is an interesting one.

Lord YHWH and Lord Jesus.

Lord is not the same word as I understand it.

LORD = YHWH in the Old Testament and Lord is kurios in the New Testament.

Many think that translating YHWH into LORD was a silly idea as it confuses things. I tend to see their point.

Why not just translate as YHWH?

The Lord…[Read more]

Your second point is an interesting one.

Lord YHWH and Lord Jesus.

Lord is not the same word as I understand it.

LORD = YHWH in the Old Testament and Lord is kurios in the New Testament.

Many think that translating YHWH into LORD was a silly idea as it confuses things. I tend to see their point.

Why not just translate as YHWH?

The Lord…[Read more]

Your second point is an interesting one.

Lord YHWH and Lord Jesus.

Lord is not the same word as I understand it.

LORD = YHWH in the Old Testament and Lord is kurios in the New Testament.

Many think that translating YHWH into LORD was a silly idea as it confuses things. I tend to see their point.

Why not just translate as YHWH?

Hi Andrew. With regards to the first part of your post.

God is love and he doesn’t need anyone to be more perfect or help to run things.

But he delights in others because God is love and love is a shared experience.

So he delegates authority from the son who has authority over all things, down to archangels, angels, world leaders, parents, etc.…[Read more]