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Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ante-Nicene Fathers Proves Textus Receptus is Oldest in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 11 years, 3 months ago
When the Trinity Doctrine fails all tests, then make arguments for the translation that supports it the most. That is the KJV and in particular the Comma Johanneum which has an added corruption of 1 John 5:7–8 which is found in no ancient manuscript and was debated not by any early Church Father. Even debates on the Trinity by Athanasius and o…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ante-Nicene Fathers Proves Textus Receptus is Oldest in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 11 years, 3 months ago
When the Trinity Doctrine fails all tests, then make arguments for the translation that supports it the most. That is the KJV and in particular the Comma Johanneum which has an added corruption of 1 John 5:7–8 which is found in no ancient manuscript and was debated not by any early Church Father. Evn debates on the Trinity by Athanasius do not i…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ante-Nicene Fathers Proves Textus Receptus is Oldest in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 11 years, 3 months ago
When the Trinity Doctrine fails all tests, then make arguments for the translation that supports it the most. That is the KJV and in particular the Comma Johanneum which has an added corruption of 1 John 5:7–8 which is no ancient manuscript and was debated not by any early Church Father.
Conclusion. If it is not true, then make it true using w…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 3 months ago
Also, have you noticed that our proof is scripture while yours is primarily from men who lived many years after scripture was written.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 3 months ago
Luther and the other reformers rightly challenged the Catholic Church that sold indulgences and offered works-based salvation.
But one good deed does not mean other deeds are good. Test everything DavidL, do not be lazy.
Luther also wrote this:
If the raging madness (of the Roman churchmen) were to continue, it seems to me no better counsel and…
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 11 years, 3 months ago
“It is a heavenly mystery which the world cannot understand”
And there it is.
Yes it is not written and yes it is a mystery that you cannot test.
This is the final argument for the Trinity when all else fails and this hypothesis has no basis in scripture whatsoever.
DavidL, did it ever cross your mind that the reformation was never suppose to…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
Study scripture and you will see the word ‘worship’ in a biblical context and who that word is legitimately applied to. I did that. The idea that Jesus is/was worshipped as the Son of God and the Lamb somehow making him God is drawing at straws. This idea is but one more farcical argument for the Trinity. If you or anyone has scriptural evidence…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
Study scripture and you will see the word ‘worship’ in a biblical context and who that word is legitimately applied to. I did that. The idea that Jesus is/was worshipped as the Son of God and the Lamb somehow making him God is drawing at straws. This idea is but one more farcical argument for the Trinity. If you have scriptural evidence that being…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
Study scripture and you will see the word ‘worship’ in a biblical context and who that word is legitimately applied to. I did that. The idea that Jesus is/was worshipped as the Son of God and the Lamb somehow making him God is drawing at straws. This all stems from another farcical argument for the Trinity. If you have scriptural evidence that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Part 2: please prove edj in the forum Group Discussions 11 years, 3 months ago
@Ed J
If I told you I was John the Baptist because a certain numeric-alpha system matched our gematria, then would you believe I was John the Baptist come back? I doubt you would. This is how we all view your claims. Delusions can be very strong, but the strength comes not in the delusion itself, but stems from what is in the heart and mind of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Part 2: please prove edj in the forum Group Discussions 11 years, 3 months ago
Was this Altar Prophetic of Jesus, because God’s Son WAS sacrificed? “Yes” or “No” ?
Could be.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Part 2: please prove edj in the forum Group Discussions 11 years, 3 months ago
Yes Nick, how many Eds are there.
And is Ed in the scripture to begin with.
What Ed J would have a us believe is pure fantasy.Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
You’re flogging a dead horse t8..
So this is what you call the most precious of truths?
For us there is one true God, the Father, and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ. This one true God sent his own son into the world to save the world.
And this is what you call a dead horse???
How did it come to this for you. What was the process you w…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
You’re flogging a dead horse t8..
So this is what you call the most precious of truths?
For us there is one true God, the Father, and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ. This one true God sent his own son into the world to save the world.
And this is what you call a dead horse???
How did it come to this for you. What was the process you w…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
I don’t believe he has a point at all. Yes he would if the word was only ever applied to God legitimately.
This application of the word ‘worship/honour’ as being only applied to God is a popular Pentecostal teaching, but does it stand when you test it.
The word ‘worship’ in scripture is used not only of God, but legitimately of men too. Check i…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
I don’t believe he has a point at all. Yes he would if the word was only ever applied to God legitimately.
This application of the word ‘worship/honour’ as being only applied to God is a popular Pentecostal teaching, but does it stand when you test it.
The word ‘worship’ in scripture is used not only of God, but legitimately of men too. Check i…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mystery of the Jews in the forum Prophecy 11 years, 3 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic Part 2: please prove edj in the forum Group Discussions 11 years, 3 months ago
ED J,
The reason you see this is because you have a sense of self-importance.
Sure anyone of us could have pre-existed and had our memories wiped (emptying oursleves) before we were born. We just do not have all the facts in front of us now.
But to see yourself because of the number 54 or whatever it was and because it looks like ED in English,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Part 2: please prove edj in the forum Group Discussions 11 years, 3 months ago
ED J,
The reason you see this is because you have a sense of self-importance.
Sure anyone of us could have pre-existed and had our memories wiped (emptying oursleves) before we were born. We just do not have all the facts in front of us now.
But to see yourself because of the number 54 or whatever it was and because it looks like ED in English,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
It’s a matter of worshiping a greater and lesser god then. If you do that does that make you a polytheist? Oh of course not according to you. Am I right?
Let me repeat it and hopefully this time you pay attention.
I worship the Father as God.
I worship Jesus as the son of God.
I do not worship the Father as the Son nor the Son as God.
The Fa…[Read more]
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