Jn 1:10 He was in the world, and though the world was made THROUGH him, the world did not recognize him

Thanks for sharing that.

@kerwin

In it is life.

We know that Jesus said that he was the ‘life’ and that God made all things through his Word and Son. So you have to admit that the descriptions of Jesus and the Word are the same. And we know that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and that the Antichrist spirit denies that Jesus came in the flesh. Further, we also…[Read more]

@kerwin

In it is life.

We know that Jesus said that he was the ‘life’ and that God made all things through his Word and Son. So you have to admit that the descriptions of Jesus and the Word are the same. And we know that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and that the Antichrist spirit denies that Jesus came in the flesh. Further, we also…[Read more]

@kerwin

In it is life.

We know that Jesus said that he was the ‘life’ and that God made all things through his Word and Son. So you have to admit that the descriptions of Jesus and the Word are the same. And we know that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and that the Antichrist spirit denies that Jesus came in the flesh. Further, we also…[Read more]

@kerwin

In it is life.

We know that Jesus said that he was the ‘life’ and that God made all things through his Word and Son. So you have to admit that the descriptions of Jesus and the Word are the same. And we know that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and that the Antichrist spirit denies that Jesus came in the flesh. Further, we also…[Read more]

@EdJ

You and Pierre BOTH are taking the word “through” to mean ‘by means of’,
as in Jesus Christ helping participate in creation (which would support ‘your claim’),
rather than through’s actual meaning “because of” (as in Jesus being the goal of creation)
which would not support ‘your claim’. (Let me know if you do not understand this distinction)

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@EdJ

You and Pierre BOTH are taking the word “through” to mean ‘by means of’,
as in Jesus Christ helping participate in creation (which would support ‘your claim’),
rather than through’s actual meaning “because of” (as in Jesus being the goal of creation)
which would not support ‘your claim’. (Let me know if you do not understand this distinction)

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@EdJ

You and Pierre BOTH are taking the word “through” to mean ‘by means of’,
as in Jesus Christ helping participate in creation (which would support ‘your claim’),
rather than through’s actual meaning “because of” (as in Jesus being the goal of creation)
which would not support ‘your claim’. (Let me know if you do not understand this distinction)

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@Ed J

You and Pierre BOTH are taking the word “through” to mean ‘by means of’,
as in Jesus Christ helping participate in creation (which would support ‘your claim’),
rather than through’s actual meaning “because of” (as in Jesus being the goal of creation)
which would not support ‘your claim’. (Let me know if you do not understand this disti…

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My view is that while it is certainly possible that Jesus (before the flesh) came to Jeremiah, we must remember that logos is also still part of God and always will be. God did not cast aside logos from himself, nor split it off from him when he begat another.

Likewise, truth is part of God, and Jesus while not being God, said that he was the…[Read more]

Many organisations are good at exposing competing organisations and with this they then introduce their own lies and hide behind the errors of others. It is a common tactic whether the perpetrators realize they are doing it or not.

The JWs for example do not believe that you need to be born from above because they think that is for 144,000…[Read more]

While the Trinity is not true, it is also not of the truth to reject everything they say. In other words, “Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater”.

You cannot write off everything a group says simply because they are wrong in a certain thing. Everything needs to be tested, not written off.

Two simple questions for you.

Did God create all…[Read more]

I have no problem believing that Jesus laying his life down was known beforehand. After all, God created beings with free will, thus it was probably only a matter of time before some of those beings chose against God which he allowed for. And God is all knowing, thus he is not ignorant of this and had a plan for this.

But that doesn’t mean that…[Read more]

There is more counter evidence against your claim, do you want to see it? “Yes” or “No” ?

Of course I am happy to see any evidence. But to be honest I have no reason to have any faith in your evidence given the history of evidence you have provided for other claims you have made here. I am not trying to be nasty but just being honest. I do not lik…[Read more]

There is more counter evidence against your claim, do you want to see it?

What claim? These ones?

Hebrews 1:2
but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

Colossians 1:15-17
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him…[Read more]

There is more counter evidence against your claim, do you want to see it?

What claim? These ones?

Hebrews 1:2
but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

Colossians 1:15-17
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him…[Read more]

Therefore it is safe to conclude: it is through Jesus’ death on the cross that all things were created by God.

Where is the word ‘death’ mentioned in relation to why God created all things through the son.

And spell out to me exactly how the process works?

So he dies for humanity, then God decides to create all things?
Or before anything was c…[Read more]

God is the Father and from where did Jesus originally come if he came from God? Was it from God’s own attributes like truth, logos, wisdom, etc? Perhaps this is why he is names these things. He came from God and then he came here to our world. Now he is back in the glory that he had with the Father before the cosmos.

When God gives us a new name…[Read more]

Ed J, you are not coming across as clearly understating what I am saying judging by your second to last post.

If Jesus said he was the truth, then does that mean that all truth including the truth in God is Jesus?

Do you see the point now.

Logos is not 100% exclusively Jesus Christ either.

This is true Tony M. Denominations are created mostly because of disagreements. But I would also say that disagreements do not have to end that way. I disagree with the Trinity Doctrine and have done so for 15 years on this site and years before that. Yet in that time I have not wanted to create a denomination nor be part of one. This is partly…[Read more]