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    As far as I am concerned the views here could be right or could be wrong. We just do not know for sure how it will all play out. Hence the discussion on numerous views and possibilities in this topic.

    Saying that one view is wrong and another right is pointless, unless it can be backed up with something substantial. Adhering to a teaching for…[Read more]

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    As far as I am concerned the views here could be right or could be wrong. We just do not know for sure how it will all play out. Hence the discussion on numerous views and possibilities in this topic.

    Saying that one view is wrong and another right is pointless, unless it can be backed up with something substantial. Adhering to a teaching for…[Read more]

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    As far as I am concerned all the views here could be right or could be wrong. We just do not know for sure how it will all play out.

    Hence the discussion on numerous views and possibilities in this topic.

    Saying that one view is wrong and another right is pointless, unless it can be backed up with something substantial. Adhering to a teaching…[Read more]

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    As far as I am concerned all the views here could be right or could be wrong. We just do not know for sure how it will all play out.

    Hence the discussion on numerous views and possibilities.

    Saying that one view is wrong and another right is pointless, unless it can be backed up with something substantial.

    You have to admit that many have been…[Read more]

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    They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while.

    A divided kingdom can only rule for a short time.

    The feet are not just clay, but iron mixed with clay. The word ‘mixed’ is the word ‘arab’. Perhaps those who predict a ‘revived roman empire’ are c…[Read more]

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    Rabbi shares prophetic message about Gog and Magog
    Speaking to Breaking Israel News, Gil Nachman, Vaknin’s English-speaking spokesman, reported that there will be an escalation in the attacks on Jews in Israel and that the attacks are going to start coming from groups of Muslims, not just single terrorists.

    During the vision, Vaknin reported se…[Read more]

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    Jesus is also called the power and wisdom of God in Paul’s 1st letter to the Corinthians. (1:24 AV of the KJV)

    Correct. In that context who would deny that wisdom, life, light, logos is the person of Jesus Christ. While these are all attributes of God that we can partake in,  they are also the person called Jesus Christ. He is the image of the inv…[Read more]

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    Jesus is also called the power and wisdom of God in Paul’s 1st letter to the Corinthians. (1:24 AV of the KJV)

    Correct. In that context who would deny that wisdom, life, light, logos is the person of Jesus Christ. While these are all attributes of God that we can partake in,  they are also the person called Jesus Christ. He is the image of the inv…[Read more]

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    I understand a being can bear the title of a concept such as “the Word” or “”Wisdom” which makes it difficult determine whether a concept is being personalized or it is instead a person. The Koine Greek, Hebrew, and Latin use of gender of a pronoun to speak of the gender of the noun being replaces makes it more difficult to judge whether the objec…

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    All I can do it point to Philo of Alexander a contemporary of John who uses logos much as John does in his writings. According to Philo, the logos was the plan or ideas of the thing to be created. From that point of view the word with God as it is in his mind.

    I think ‘with’ is the wrong word if ‘in’ is really meant.

    I think that Jesus Christ is…[Read more]

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    All I can do it point to Philo of Alexander a contemporary of John who uses logos much as John does in his writings. According to Philo, the logos was the plan or ideas of the thing to be created. From that point of view the word with God as it is in his mind.

    I think ‘with’ is the wrong word if ‘in’ is really meant.

    I think that Jesus Christ is…[Read more]

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    Yes. Although, when most who repent and believe are also taught about the Trinity in the early stage of their faith, it is not often challenged. But I believe if people are true, when the truth is revealed to them, they will know in their heart that this is either true or worth checking out.

    Hopefully my challenge is even noticed by him. It seems…[Read more]

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    As far as I know he preaches Jesus Christ of Nazareth who is the messiah and the son of God. However, he also preaches that he is God and this is what I have a problem with. I have corrected him couple of times and will probably do it again. It might make him think about it if I word it with scripture and not my own understanding.

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    The alternative is that there existed a great city around the time of Sodom that was abandoned suddenly, and was never mentioned in scripture. This too is possible.

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    The word was with God and the word is sent from God and will return to God when it has accomplished the mission he assigned it.

    I understand the logos in God and he can speak and his word will not come back void. But how did the Word exist WITH God? Explain your view.

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    Kerwin, your reasoning above is flawed and inadequate.

    A person or being can exist who is called by the same name as an attribute of God. In fact this was and is common practice. Jesus called Peter a rock/stone for example. Most names of people are actually attributes. e.g., David means Beloved (I think).

    I know a person called Grace, and grace…[Read more]

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    Kerwin, your reasoning above is flawed and inadequate.

    A person or being can exist who is called by the same name as an attribute of God. In fact this is common practice with God. Jesus called Peter a rock/stone for example.

    I know a person called Grace, and grace is also an attribute of God. We need not be confused about this.

    An attribute…[Read more]

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    Paul knew someone who was caught up into the Third Heaven or at least he had a vision of it.

    Then we have this:

    When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How…[Read more]

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    Paul was caught up into the Third Heaven or at least he had a vision of it.

    Then we have this:

    When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord,…[Read more]

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    The Word was WITH God. Look up the word ‘WITH’. If something or someone is with me, then it is not me, but next to me.

    And who is next to God? The one whom is called “The Word of God”. Coincidence, no. In fact he is with God now in the same glory he had with him before the cosmos. He existed in the form of God, emptied himself, took on flesh,…[Read more]

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