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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 12 months ago

    Hi t8,

    Just a body?

    Men are more than bodies .

    All men are composed of body, soul, spirit. Agree or disagree?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 12 months ago

    “With the glory I HAD BEFORE THE WORLD EXISTED” so how can Jesus possibly be speaking of predestination? Jesus literally spoke of his own past which predates the world! Revelation 3:14 says Jesus was the beginning of all creation.

    I agree, but some here take these very scriptures and get an opposite meaning.  Why? Because they start with a hy…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 12 months ago

    “With the glory I HAD BEFORE THE WORLD EXISTED” so how can Jesus possibly be speaking of predestination? Jesus literally spoke of his own past which predates the world! Revelation 3:14 says Jesus was the beginning of all creation.

    I agree, but some here take these very scriptures and get an opposite meaning.  Why? Because they start with the hypo…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 12 months ago

    “With the glory I HAD BEFORE THE WORLD EXISTED” so how can Jesus possibly be speaking of predestination? Jesus literally spoke of his own past which predates the world! Revelation 3:14 says Jesus was the beginning of all creation.

    I agree, but some here take these very scriptures and get an opposite meaning.  Why? Because they start with the hypo…[Read more]

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    I agree. So what is your problem with this thread exactly?

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    I am not sure what you are opposing exactly. This thread is covering the possible rise of and Islamic Empire that will wage war on the rest of the world. I could have done the same thing about the rise of the Nazi’s if this forum and myself was around pre WWII.

    But you came here saying they are but a bunch of thugs and nothing of concern. I…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 12 months ago

    Hi t8,

    Paul said

    “we have this treasure in earthen vessels”

    He was speaking to those on earth in their old bodies.

    That body is changed later.

    Is Jesus is just a body to you? Does he have a soul like us?

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    Nick your comments do not hit the nail on the head IMO. I was the one that pointed out that he includes Jesus as God in his gospel. So I am not defending that.

    What I am not doing is getting on the ‘let’s call this man a deceiver’ bus.

    I believe that we can be genuine Believers and still have error in our doctrine and even our gospel. But I…[Read more]

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    True that considering the year 1 BC is followed by AD 1.

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    With regards to the Sabbath, I think it needed to be tested because some claim that we should observe it and others do not think it is relevant. Hence I want to hear the views. If I didn’t care about my faith in God, I would not embark on such things. My desire is to do the right thing. “Seek and you will find” someone once said.

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    With regards to the Sabbath, I think it needed to be tested because some claim that we should observe it and others do not think it is relevant. Hence I want to hear the views. If I didn’t care about my faith in God, I would not embark on such things. My desire is to do the right thing. Seek and you will find someone once said.

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    I googled Brigitte Gabriel and at a glance Google says she is an American journalist, author, political lecturer, anti-Islamic extremism activist.

    What does that have to do with me. I am tying this into Biblical prophecy and it seems to fit. Doesn’t make it correct, but worthy of consideration.

    I am not with anything that is against the truth o…[Read more]

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    I googled Brigitte Gabriel and at a glance Google says she is an American journalist, author, political lecturer, anti-Islamic extremism activist.

    What does that have to do with me. I am tying this into Biblical prophecy and it seems to fit. Doesn’t make it correct, but worthy of consideration.

    I am not with anything that is against the truth o…[Read more]

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    I googled Brigitte Gabriel and at a glance Google says she is an American journalist, author, political lecturer, anti-Islamic extremism activist.

    What does that have to do with me. I am tying this into Biblical prophecy and it seems to fit. Doesn’t make it correct, but worthy of consideration.

    I am not with anything that is against the truth o…[Read more]

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    Could it really be just as simple as one-quarter of the world worshiping a god who has no son. A God and prophet with an Antichrist message that God has no son. They prostrate themselves five times  a day before him and his prophet and their scriptures teach that Christians and Jews, and others are infidels. While most will not resort to terror…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 12 months ago

    From what I see you are pro-life so it should be known to you that human life begins at conception.

    All physical things have a beginning of course. But that is the shell. It is not life. Not the eternal life that was with the Father.

    Don’t mix physical and spirit. Is it beyong God’s power to send someone that is with him to partake in flesh for…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 12 months ago

    That is essentially what the word conceive means. I find it hard to believe you are not aware of that.

    There is no argument with me that the Word became flesh or that Jesus came in the flesh.

    But where is the word conceive in the following scripture then? Do we ignore this scripture because it doesn’t fit your view?

    John 17:5
    And now, Father,…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 12 months ago

    @Nickhassan

    Hi t8,

    The Spirit spoke through the vessel Jesus.

    What exactly is this vessel comprised of?

    Body, soul, flesh? Body only? What?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 12 months ago

    @Nickhassan

    Hi t8,

    The Spirit spoke through the vessel Jesus.

    What exactly does this vessel comprise of?

    Body, soul, flesh? Body only? What?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 12 months ago

    Hi t8,

    The Spirit spoke through the vessel Jesus.

    What exactly does this vessel comprise of?

    Body, soul, flesh? Body only? What?

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