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    Hi T8,

    You seem to express opinions rather than show truth.

    Is this your opinion?

    (Emphasis mine.)

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    Hi t8,

    To repeat.

    Jesus is the anointed one, the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    He has the words of eternal life.

     

    His words are spirit and life.

    This is true. But this is not what you were teaching earlier was it. You taught that Jesus is a flesh man only created 2000 or so year ago, and that flesh counts for nothing. Thus the…[Read more]

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    Hi T8,

    Do you realise that you deny the work of the Spirit in Jesus Christ?

    Yet you teach and reprove others.

    That is what you say Nick. But you are not the truth. Jesus is the truth and his words are true. I trust his words, not yours. Hopefully that doesn’t upset you, but if you read what I am saying here, then you have to agree.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi T8,

    The obvious meaning is what Jesus chersir taught.

    That the Spirit spoke through him.

    Nick is that you, or the Spirit that you speak of.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    Hi t8,

    The anointed words of the anointed man burn themselves into the hearts of believers . Lk 24.32

    But, for some reason, you only hear a man speaking.

    Which words do not come from God?

    If you really want the job of the religious Pharisee who goes around judging everyone but himself, then go ahead. I do not recommend it, but it is your…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    a) “Abraham your father rejoiced that he might see my day”or
    b) “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day”

    Both speak of a day in Abraham’s future so clearly Jesus is not claiming his day is before Abraham’s.

    Are you suggesting that Jesus came from the future then travelled to the past?

    The point here is, how did Jesus know this about Abrah…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    a) “Abraham your father rejoiced that he might see my day”or
    b) “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day”

    Both speak of a day in Abraham’s future so clearly Jesus is not claiming his day is before Abraham’s.

    Are you suggesting that Jesus came from the future and to the past?

    The point here is, how did Jesus know this about Abraham? Th…[Read more]

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    That would contradict the prophecy of the five empires and Scripture is not broken.

    Revelation

      Egypt – 3100 to ? (Genesis 12:10)
      Assyria – 2500 BC to 605 BC (Genesis 2:14)

    Daniel & Revelation

      Babylon – 612 – 539 BC (Daniel 1:1)
      Medo-Persia – 539 – 331 BC (Daniel 5:28)
      Greecia – 331 – 168 BC (Daniel 10:20)
      Rome – 168-476 AD / 1453 AD –…

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    That would contradict the prophecy of the five empires and Scripture is not broken.

    Revelation

      Egypt – 3100 to ? (Genesis 12:10)
      Assyria – 2500 BC to 605 BC (Genesis 2:14)

    Daniel

      Babylon – 612 – 539 BC (Daniel 1:1)
      Medo-Persia – 539 – 331 BC (Daniel 5:28)
      Greecia – 331 – 168 BC (Daniel 10:20)
      Rome – 168-476 AD / 1453 AD – inc Byzantine…

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    That would contradict the prophecy of the five empires and Scripture is not broken.

    Revelation

      Egypt – 3100 to ? (Genesis 12:10)
      Assyria – 2500 BC to 605 BC (Genesis 2:14)

    Daniel

      Babylon – 612 – 539 BC (Daniel 1:1)
      Medo-Persia – 539 – 331 BC (Daniel 5:28)
      Greecia – 331 – 168 BC (Daniel 10:20)
      Rome – 168-476 AD / 1453 AD – inc Byzantine…

    [Read more]

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    That would contradict the prophecy of the five empires and Scripture is not broken.

    As for the five kings/empires versus seven, that can be explained by the two empires predating the time of Daniel (Egypt & Assyria) which would not have been of significant at that time as God gave a vision of the future only, while Revelation appears to give us…[Read more]

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    That would contradict the prophecy of the five empires and Scripture is not broken.

    Nebuchadnezzar Statue Nebuchadnezzar Statue
    As for the five kings/empires versus seven, that can be explained by the two empires predating the time of Daniel (Egypt & Assyria) which would not have been of significant at that time as God gave a vision of the future only, while…[Read more]

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    That would contradict the prophecy of the five empires and Scripture is not broken.

    As for the five kings/empires versus seven, that can be explained by the two empires predating the time of Daniel (Egypt & Assyria) which would not have been of significant at that time as God gave a vision of the future only, while Revelation appears to give us…[Read more]

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    t8,

    The Seventh may be the European Union though it is an extremely loose confederacy right now.

    Could be. One way it could happen is with Islamic immigration and the rise of terror. This could force Europe to invest in futuristic surveillance technology and the opposition to all religions. If a leader rose up within that political system, it…[Read more]

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    t8,

    I know that Persia-Media overtook Neo-Babylon in a night and that Rome gradually swallowed Greece. Greece, actually Macedonia, took Peria-Media fairly quickly with Alexander the Great at the helm. The Ottoman Empire fell at the end of World WarII. There is not gap between them but there is an overlap, even if it is very small.

    Overlaps are…[Read more]

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    Hi T8,

    God is not scientific despite your best efforts to teach that He is.

    Yor boxes will never be BIG enough.

    Nick, science means knowledge. It is shameful how you attack those who seek tho know about God in every way.

    What causes you to attack people’s innocent faith. What spirit are you of?

    Those who are born from above are known by their…[Read more]

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    To all….THERE IS “ONLY” ONE TRUE ROCK and that is GOD THE FATHER ALONE.

    Psalm 18:31 ..”For who is GOD besides the “LORD”, YEHWEH? AND WHO IS A “ROCK” EXCEPT OUR GOD”. 2 Sa 22:32… For who is God, save the LORD?, and who is a “ROCK” save our GOD.

    The “ROCK” Jesus was refering to, was GOD THE FATHER, And is WHO JESUS WOULD BUILD THE CHURCH BY a…

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    Hi t8,

    Did the apostles move and speak in the power of God but not Jesus?

    Now you are being silly. Of course they were all moved by the Spirit. No one is denying that.

    If prophets spoke when moved by the Spirit, then how much more the son of God.

    You seem to want to remove Jesus from the picture.

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    Do you suggest an anointed man lived in heaven and was clothed in flesh for a while?

    That is a flimsy argument if the man was yet to be conceived, born and named.

    Dig deeper

    Nick, I have had you up about this accusation before.

    I believe that he existed in the form of God, emptied himself, and came in the flesh.

    So of course I do not believe…[Read more]

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    Do you suggest an anointed man lived in heaven and was clothed in flesh for a while?

    That is a flimsy argument if the man was yet to be conceived, born and named.

    Dig deeper

    Nick, I have had you up about this accusation before.

    I believe that he existed in the form of God, emptied himself, and came in the flesh.

    So of course I do not believe…[Read more]

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