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    Hi t8,

    Did the other prophets talk about themselves in this way?

    Not to the some degree of course because they were servants, and Jesus the son.

    However, off the top of my head, John said he was a voice shouting in the wilderness and perhaps other prophets claimed things that were right to claim.

    When Jesus said, “Before Abraham, I am”, he…[Read more]

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    At least we can agree that it was not God himself that was being referred to in that context. Even Gene changed his mind which is good in the sense that he can change his mind. And Nick agreed with Gene in the end, as well as Lightenup on another matter. It may or may not be right, but in the least, some are in agreement.

    God may be THE Rock,…[Read more]

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    At least we can agree that it was not God himself that was being referred to in that context. Even Gene changed his mind which is good in the sense that he can change his mind.

    He may be THE Rock, but he was not THIS rock.

    I think further debate on this will not accomplish much. We have all been given the information, and our opinions, so what…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    @DannyD

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in your statement quoted above.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worshipped’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. Clearly they are honoured a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    @DannyD

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in your statement quoted above.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worshipped’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. Clearly they are honoured a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    @DannyD

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in your statement quoted above.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worshipped’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. Clearly they are honoured a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    @DannyD

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in your statement quoted above.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worship’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. This is written in Revelation w…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    @DannyD

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in this statement.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worship’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. This is written in Revelation when it d…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    @Danny Dabbs

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in this statement.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worship’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. This is written in Revelation when it d…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 7 months ago

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in this statement.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worship’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. This is written in Revelation when it describes H…[Read more]

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    I'M JUST GONNA SAY WHAT MANY PEOPLE ARE THINKING BUT ARE AFRAID…

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    Hi T8,

    So you consider then that it may have been because of Jesus
    (yet future) death on the cross that God created
    all things through him?

    That would be grasping at straws.

    John goes to great length to tell us about the Word that was with God in the beginning. That word became flesh and this is Jesus. We know that God created through his Word…[Read more]

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    Hi T8,

    So you consider then that it may have been because of Jesus
    (yet future) death on the cross that God created
    all things through him?

    That would be grasping at straws.

    John goes to great length to tell us about the Word that was with God in the beginning. That word became flesh and this is Jesus. We know that God created through his Word…[Read more]

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    Hi T8,

    So you consider then that it may have been because of Jesus
    (yet future) death on the cross that God created
    all things through him?

    That would be grasping at straws.

    John goes to great length to tell us about the Word that was with God in the beginning. That word became flesh and this is Jesus. We know that God created through his Word…[Read more]

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    Hi t8,

    So do you ascribe these words of Jesus Christ to the Spirit of God in him;

    ‘Before Abraham was I am’

    ?

    Jesus was clearly talking about himself here.

    “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”

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    Hi t8,

    So do you ascribe these words of Jesus Christ to the Spirit of God in him;

    ‘Before Abraham was I am’

    ?

    Jesus was clearly talking about himself here.

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    EdJ, the one who God made all things through is not the one who made all things.

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    Why is it that Isaiah and Job are quoted as if it is common knowledge that God gave them the words

    yet when it comes to the great Prophet, the Son of God, the words are attributed, not to God but to the speaker?

    Why is it that you even think this. More error. Next.

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    So the conclusion is what Nick? That you are right and others wrong. That you are born from above and encourage others here because they are not. You are love??? Just tell us in plain English what the heart of your message is and why you post like you do and discourage others. Can you explain it in one paragraph? I’m Curios.

    And tell us about…[Read more]

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