I appreciate you explaining your view here.

I can see at least one assumptions and so will call that out.

John 1 tells us that when God began to create he had a plan and all things were made by the last Adam who is “the express image of God’s person”.

It doesn’t actually say anywhere that all things were made through the Second Adam anywh…[Read more]

I appreciate you explaining your view here.

I can see at least one assumptions and so will call that out.

John 1 tells us that when God began to create he had a plan and all things were made by the last Adam who is “the express image of God’s person”.

It doesn’t actually say anywhere that all things were made through the Second Adam anywh…[Read more]

I appreciate you explaining your view here.

I can see a number of assumptions and so will call them out.

John 1 tells us that when God began to create he had a plan and all things were made by the last Adam who is “the express image of God’s person”.

It doesn’t actually say anywhere that all things were made through the Second Adam anywh…[Read more]

I appreciate you explaining your view here.

I can see a number of assumptions and so will call them out.

John 1 tells us that when God began to create he had a plan and all things were made by the last Adam who is “the express image of God’s person”.

It doesn’t actually say anywhere that all things were made through the Second Adam anywh…[Read more]

What was with God in the beginning?

WITH God + BECAME flesh = Jesus Christ

EdJ, I think you are over-reacting.

Now instead of God creating all things by himself and alone through Jesus (death on a cross),

There is nothing wrong with me trying to find out how you get over the contradiction that shows itself to me in your argument. I need to address the elephant in the room.

You are a created being, and God created all…[Read more]

Hi T8,

1) Yes (ref. Isaiah 44:24)

2) No, God created Adam and Eve.
“And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind”
My parents created me, my Grand parents did NOT created me through my parents, and neither did God.

3) Yes, see point #2.

If you are going to try to force your belief to sound correct, you are…

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is flawed as it is in itself a doctrinal belief.

Yes, being kind to one another should be a doctrinal belief for example and so should be the command to lave one another. But these should primarily be actions.

I mean, it is one thing to believe that we should be kind, but quite another to actually be kind.

The latter being way more important as…[Read more]

is flawed as it is in itself a doctrinal belief.

Yes, being kind to one another should be a doctrinal belief. But primarily an action.

I mean, it is one thing to believe that we should be kind, but quite another to actually be kind.

The latter being way more important.

Actions speak louder than words as the saying goes.

But be doers of the…[Read more]

Yes God has the logos within him. No one is doubting that. I thought we were talking about the Logos that was with God, the one that became flesh, the one that is Jesus Christ who is called by that name.

Likewise truth is in God and so is life. Jesus is called these too and he is not God.

I know a girl called Grace. Grace is an attribute of God too.

But no sweat, after all we are not saved based on our doctrinal beliefs, but
instead on believing in God’s son’s sacrifice for our sins, AND how we treat others.

Good 🙂

Ed j.

Did God create all things alone? Yes / No

Did God create you alone? Yes / No

Were you created through your parents? Yes / No

Why would his own history be relevant if his role was as a spokesperson for God?

His history is relevant because God made all things for him and through him. The last book in the Bible is dedicated to him and much of the Old Testament is prophecy pertaining to him. Even the gospels are about him and in the letters of Paul, Jesus plays a central…[Read more]

Why would his own history be relevant if his role was as a spokesperson for God?

His history is relevant because God made all things for him and through him. The last book in the Bible is dedicated to him and much of the Old Testament is prophecy pertaining to him. Even the gospels are about him and in the letters of Paul, Jesus plays a central…[Read more]

T8…..I ask you on the preexistence thread to tell us who was speaking inReveations to the Seven Chureches , was it THE MAN JESUS or was it the SPIRIT OF GOD SPEAKING THROUGH HIM, or was it both speaking, esus told usthat it wasthe Spirit speaking and sais to him that has the ears to hear let him hear what the spirit is saying. So tell us was it t…

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Hi t8,

Did the other prophets talk about themselves in this way?

Not to the some degree of course because they were servants, and Jesus the son.

However, off the top of my head, John said he was a voice shouting in the wilderness and perhaps other prophets claimed things that were right to claim.

When Jesus said, “Before Abraham, I am”, he…[Read more]

At least we can agree that it was not God himself that was being referred to in that context. Even Gene changed his mind which is good in the sense that he can change his mind. And Nick agreed with Gene in the end, as well as Lightenup on another matter. It may or may not be right, but in the least, some are in agreement.

God may be THE Rock,…[Read more]

At least we can agree that it was not God himself that was being referred to in that context. Even Gene changed his mind which is good in the sense that he can change his mind.

He may be THE Rock, but he was not THIS rock.

I think further debate on this will not accomplish much. We have all been given the information, and our opinions, so what…[Read more]

@DannyD

Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

There are two clear errors in your statement quoted above.

1) God is not the only one ‘worshipped’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. Clearly they are honoured a…[Read more]

@DannyD

Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

There are two clear errors in your statement quoted above.

1) God is not the only one ‘worshipped’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. Clearly they are honoured a…[Read more]