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Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
HH. As for Nick. Have you felt like leaving this forum because of Nick? I am curious. I do not want people put off from posting here because of him or others. That is counter-productive to the reason this site was set up. I prefer if people leave it is because they cannot face the truth. Not because of bad behaviour or silly spammy posts from any member.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
HH.
The verse is simple and clear. I do not even need to explain it.
You seem to preach an opposite meaning by saying that there is one God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
A child can read it as saying, there is one God the Father, and that Jesus the messiah was sent by this God who is his Father.
Further, these words are eternal…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
HH.
The verse is simple and clear. I do not even need to explain it.
You seem to preach an opposite meaning by saying that there is one God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
A child can read it as saying, there is one God the Father, and that Jesus the messiah was sent by this God who is his Father.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Did the Holocaust Really Happen? in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
Thanks Andrew. I went to Anderson’s website and read his creed. It consisted of the Trinity and other typical statements that most denominations hold to. He is an intense person and that can be good when studying scripture because he will look at everything and leave no stone unturned. Perhaps he should focus on his own creed though, as that is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Did the Holocaust Really Happen? in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
Thanks Andrew. I went to Andrew’s website and read his creed. It consisted of the Trinity and other typical creeds that most denominations have. He is an intense person and that can be good when studying the word because he will look at everything and leave no stone unturned. Perhaps he should focus on his creed however, as that is the most…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 10 years, 2 months ago
Can you see that, t8? This is NOT a piece of scripture that you can successfully use to show that there was a time when the Son did not exist.
Kathi. Jesus is called the son and this word ‘son’ has a meaning and a relationship with the word ‘father’. God is the Father and this word ‘father’ has a meaning too.
The fact that God is the Father and…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 10 years, 2 months ago
Can you see that, t8? This is NOT a piece of scripture that you can successfully use to show that there was a time when the Son did not exist.
Kathi. Jesus is called the son and the word son has a meaning. God is the Father and the word father has a meaning too.
The fact that God is the Father and Jesus is his son is easy to understand. While we…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The true meaning of the word ‘God’ – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 10 years, 2 months ago
HH
Some of what Nick says is true even if he doubts the salvation of all but himself.
When he says that the Trinity is not true, he speaks correctly.
Please do not throw out the baby with the bath water.
Paul spoke the truth when he said:
“For us there is one God the Father”.
And if you replace the world ‘God’ in scripture with ‘Father’, it…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The true meaning of the word ‘God’ – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 10 years, 2 months ago
HH
Some of what Nick says is true even if he doubts the salvation of all but himself.
When he says that the Trinity is not true, he speaks correctly.
Please do not throw out the baby with the bath water.
Paul spoke the truth when he said:
“For us there is one God the Father”.
And if you replace the world God in scripture with Father, it…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
Kewrin, does the “form of God” in your opinion being the form of angels mean ‘spirit’?
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 2 months ago
@hoghead1
I take it you do not believe these words of eternal life that Jesus himself spoke:
John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
You say:
God the Father (correct)
God the Son (incorrect)
God the SpiritBut Jesus is called the Son of God.
The Spirit is the Spirit of God.So is the Father, the Father of God?
Or is he just God, and all else (in context) is OF him?
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
You close your ears to what I say and support the words of one who teaches trinity?
Nick, I am talking about your behavior. Does it not strike you as odd that nearly everyone you engage with says the same thing. Are they all wrong about your behaviour?
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
I just said, in my previous post here, that they did not worship David. Also I don’t know what the “older tradition” is that you re referring to here. If you mean the OT, OK. However, certain early churches did affirm the Deity of Christ., the exceptions being teh anti-Trinitarians such as the Arians, Orign, etc.
Give this page…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
@hoghead1
I just said, in my previous post here, that they did not worship David. Also I don’t know what the “older tradition” is that you re referring to here. If you mean the OT, OK. However, certain early churches did affirm the Deity of Christ., the exceptions being teh anti-Trinitarians such as the Arians, Orign, etc.
Give this page a re…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
@hoghead1
I just said, in my previous post here, that they did not worship David. Also I don’t know what the “older tradition” is that you re referring to here. If you mean the OT, OK. However, certain early churches did affirm the Deity of Christ., the exceptions being teh anti-Trinitarians such as the Arians, Orign, etc.
Give this page a re…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
Hi t8,
Do you prefer theology to scripture now too?
Another stupid question Nick.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
I said that Scripture implies a Trinity, but does not work it out in any real detail.
And yet it does more than imply that there is one God the Father. It teaches this clearly.
The prologue to Jn. is one such major passage that points to the Trinity.
Not so. If the Word is God himself, then that would negate the Father being God.
Was Eve Adam?…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
Nick, please. Could you give me some solid food, something really meaty to really think about, a challenge? Again, all you are doing here is posting inflammatory rhetoric, not theology. Boring, very boring.
Just ignore him hoghead.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 2 months ago
Nick, please. Could you give me some solid food, something really meaty to really think about, a challenge? Again, all you are doing here is posting inflammatory rhetoric, not theology. Boring, very boring.
Just ignore him hoghead.
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