Yes evidence beyond opinion is required as Kerwin will appreciate.

The messiah was born in Bethlehem.

You conveniently missed out the words “this day” or “today” didn’t you?

Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

Does this scripture make you wriggle in agony? Why appose it then?

Wisdom is justified of her children.

Yes I would say that it is wise to believe the angel’s testimony of Jesus. But you do not believe.

Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

T8…..So tell us when was JESUS the lord, was that aso at berth also even before he could even talk or reason?,

Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

The angels message is foolishness to you Gene because you hold that Jesus the person had no other existence before being born this baby. Thus the d…[Read more]

If you cannot hear the Spirit why do you search the scriptures?

So believing that angel’s message and defending it means I lack the spirit according to Nick.

That is a big call for two reasons.

You infer I have not the Spirit.
The angel has to be wrong because believing the message leads to these accusations of yours.

Or perhaps you are…[Read more]

If you cannot hear the Spirit why do you search the scriptures?

So believing that angel’s message and defending it means I lack the spirit Nick.

That is a big call for two reasons.

You infer I have not the Spirit.
The angel has to be wrong because believing the message leads to these accusations of yours.

Or perhaps you are wrong rather…[Read more]

Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point…[Read more]

Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point…[Read more]

Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point…[Read more]

And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

A simple read of this text says that he had glory with the Father before the cosmos. Because the cosmos is not eternal, the most you can draw from this is he is before the cosmos and this agrees with the fact that God created all things through h…[Read more]

This is how some Muslims see the end-times as interpreted from their books (hadiths & Quran).

Oh, c’mon, Ed.  You must not have read much Scripture. Try John 1:1 and following, for starters.

Since you read the Church Fathers, then try this:

“We next notice John’s use of the article in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor is he unfamiliar with the niceties of the Greek tongue. In some cases he uses the ar…[Read more]

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So if you believe Jesus preexisted was it as a man?

Nick, when you believed that Jesus preexisted as testified by your early posts here, you were just as right as you are now.

You are always right Nick, even when you change your mind. That is amazing isn’t it?

Jesus said “before Abraham I am”. Nick and Gene say that before Abraham he wasn’t.

Nick I believe he was the Word that was with God.

HI, t8,

That may be the problem.  You may well have been looking at the Trinity as expressed in these forms.  However, that is a long, long way from the Trinity as represented out there, in the real world of doctrine and teachings.  The fact you feel unfamiliar with what I have had to say tells me right there  there’s a whole world of Trini…

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Seems weird that he would play along then. But maybe he has something up his sleeve. I wouldn’t want to play chess against God.