Is Islam mentioned in the Bible?

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  • #793571
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    It fits with the ways of the whore.

    Of man and for man.

    God is not involved.

    #794072
     t8 
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    @bodhitharta

    Your article should have correct info: THERE is no prophesied Islamic Mahdi in the Quran, in the Quran it only talks about the return of Jesus Christ, wouldn’t it be better to research what’s in the Quran rather than make articles based upon bad info? Here is a place you can search the Quran and have knowledge when you report

    http://www.searchtruth.com/

    Thanks for the link. I might use that next time I quote your book. In my writing I quote this:

    The Mahdi of the Quran and in the Hadith seems to match the Antichrist of the Bible.

    In other areas I quote the Hadith only. While it is true that the Quran doesn’t explicitly talk about the Mahdi as a person, and for that reason, I may change the line I quote, some argue that the Mahdi is indeed mentioned in the Quran. After looking this up, I have learned that the Mahdi is frequently mentioned in Sunni hadith as establishing the caliphate.  Is this only a Sunni belief? Are you Shia?

    As for possibly being in the Qaran, some believe it is there. e.g., I found this in
    http://www.alislam.org/library/books/truthfulness/question_3.html

    Some people argue that there is no mention, whatsoever, of Imam Mahdi in the Holy Quran. They demand us to prove from the Quran that Imam Mahdi shall come. We have already proved from the Quran that prophet-hood is continued. In the following verses we’ll prove that Imam Mahdi, which means “a guided leader”, is a title of the prophets and all the prophets have been called Imam Mahdi. The confusion arises in the minds when people think of Imam Mahdi as a separate and distinct personality from the Promised Messiah. In the Ahadees of Hadhrat Muhammad (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) mentioned in Ibn-e-Majja and Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal, Imam Mahdi and the Promised Messiah has been mentioned as one and the same person. The holy Quran also does not differentiate Imam Mahdi from prophets and call the prophets as Imam Mahdi, as is evident in the following verses.

    And remember when his Lord tried Abraham with certain commandments which he fulfilled, He said, ‘I will make thee a leader of men.’ Abraham asked, ‘And from among my offspring?’ God said, ‘My covenant does not embrace the transgressors.’ [2:125]

    In this verse Allah gives this glad tiding to Abraham that He is making him the Imam, which means that prophet and Imam are only two different names for one office.

    In the verses 72 & 73 of Al-Anbiya, Allah mentions Prophet Lot, Ishaq and Yaqoob and then in verse-74 calls them Imam Mahdi.

    And We made them leaders who guided people by Our command, and We sent revelation to them enjoining the doing of good works, and the observance of Prayer, and the giving of alms. And Us alone they worshipped. [21:74]

    Similarly in the following verse, Allah also mentions the Prophets of Israelites as Imam Mahdi.

    And We appointed from among them leaders, who guided the people by Our command, because they were steadfast and had firm faith in Our Signs. [32:25]

     

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     bodhitharta 
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    Hi T8

    The Mahdi of the Quran and in the Hadith seems to match the Antichrist of the Bible.

    There can be no such thing as an Islamic “ANTICHRIST” I love Jewish people but you do realize all practicing Jews are antichrists right?

    #794090
     NickHassan 
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    Hi BD,

    The love you proclaim for Jesus and the jewish people seems a most peculiar kind of love.

    Rather like how our cat loves mice

    #794118
     t8 
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    Yes Bod, many deny the Father and Son including Jews, Gentiles, and Muslims.

    As for an Islamic Antichrist, it may be true that they have no term for the Antichrist because by that definition they would have to include themselves. However, there is the Masih ad-Dajjal, the so-called False Messiah. It could be that Satan has preplanned this to get people to ignore the true messiah who we know opposes the Beast and False prophet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masih_ad-Dajjal

    #798647
     t8 
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    This video does a good job at trying to debunk this theory.

    However, while the author does a great job with the above video and has researched the subject well, and makes many good points, I think he does fail to point out the impact millions of people believing in Islamic prophecy can have. The army of the black flags for example show fulfillment of their own prophecies simply because they believe it to be true and make it happen at the opportune time. See below video.

    To some degree belief can lead to fulfillment of their own prophecies thereby indirectly even fulfilling Bible prophecy if much of the Hadiths were lifted from the prophecies in the Bible as mentioned, but twisted to an Islamic perspective. After all the Bible talks about great lies, deceiving signs, and wonders in the last days. Who is the Father of Lies? If a book takes prophecies in the Bible and twists them to a different meaning or conclusion, then who ultimately inspired that book?

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     miia 
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    t8,

    The Quran may have lies. but the Jewish Talmud does also. Which one is worse? I vote the Tulmud.

    Quotes from the Tulmud:

    *’Yashu’ is an acronym for the Jewish curse, ‘May his (Jesus) name be wiped out forevermore.’

    * Yashu (Jesus) was sexually immoral and worshipped a brick.” (Sanhedrin 107b)

    * “Miriam the hairdresser had sex with many men.” (Shabbath 104b, Hebrew Edition only)

    * “Yashu (Jesus) was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness and refused to repent.” (Sotah 47a)

    * “‘Yashu’ (‘Jesus’) is in Hell being boiled in hot excrement.” (Gittin 57a)

     

    http://www.rense.com/general79/talmud.htm

    #798651
     t8 
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    I don’t know anything about the Talmud, but if it says that, then that is terrible.

    #798652
     miia 
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    t8 and all, I truly believe Islam is deceived. But i also believe the Muslim people are a test if we can love our neighbor as ourselves, and if we have the spirit of Christ then we truly can.

    My family is (apparently) of Jewish origin. Do we believe we have the right (even though their president says) to move to Israel and grab some land at the expense of the Gazan people?  NO!!

    ‘Google’ True Torah Jews and Jews Against Zionism, to learn something maybe.

    #798653
     miia 
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    The above picture reminds me of the Horses of the Apocalypse?

    #798654
     miia 
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    I don’t know anything about the Talmud, but if it says that, then that is terrible.

     

    It is. Even the Quran doesn’t go that low. They at least respect Jesus.

    #798658
     bodhitharta 
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    The Quran says that Jesus is The Messiah and a Word from God the Jews call Jesus immoral and slanders Mary, who do Christians support? The Jews

    I guess will see when Jesus returns

    #798712
     miia 
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    Hi Bd, not all.

    Actually, millions of Eastern Orthodox, Catholics and Lutherans do not as they are A-millenialists (believe Israel is now spiritual and the called out ecclesia).

    #799615
     t8 
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    Supporting the existence of Israel is not the same as supporting ungodly Jews, just the same as supporting the USA isn’t the same as supporting Atheism.

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     t8 
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    Islamic Antichrist Debunked – Chris White

    #807028
     t8 
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    Link to a different explanation as to who the Beast is.

    Is the Vatican the Beast

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     t8 
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    The Color of Islam

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     t8 
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    This is how some Muslims see the end-times as interpreted from their books (hadiths & Quran).

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     t8 
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     t8 
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