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That isn’t the way it happened, t8. What did go down is that teh early fathers, working with Scripture, received, from the texts, strong implications that there was a Trinity.

The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. Initially, both the requirements of monotheism inherited from the Hebrew S…[Read more]

God > Word/Christ/Jesus/Son > Mankind.

God is the head of all, even Christ.

In summary…the Son must be eternal if His begettal was the FIRST work of God the Father and not the SECOND work of God the Father. A person’s existence is a prerequisite to the act of their begettal. The Son pre-existed His begettal. The begettal was the FIRST work not the SECOND. Therefore, He was not made before He was begotten. He eternally exi…[Read more]

Therefore, if you believe that the begettal of the Logos, (the Son) was the “first” work of the Father and not the “second” work of the Father, the Son had to have always existed eternally in order to have been begotten as the “first” work. If he had to be made and then begotten, the begettal would be the “second” work and the act of making Him w…

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Therefore, if you believe that the begettal of the Logos, (the Son) was the “first” work of the Father and not the “second” work of the Father, the Son had to have always existed eternally in order to have been begotten as the “first” work. If he had to be made and then begotten, the begettal would be the “second” work and the act of making Him w…

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I am going to assume that you understand the words that the Father spoke “Today I have begotten thee” refer to the day of theresurrection since you haven’t disputed this.

Do not assume this.

The Word came from God. The Word then became flesh. Jesus was then resurrected and now has a body of which we believers will also inherit.

There are three…[Read more]

Saying that the son was eternal in the past is basically saying he is not the son but a second eternal God with another one called the Father.

And then you have to ask yourself why they are called Father and Son. If they are co-equal and eternal, then they are eternal friends, not Father and Son.

Of course, I believe that Jesus is the son of God…[Read more]

Saying that the son was eternal in the past is basically saying he is not the son but a second eternal God with another one called the Father.

And then you have to ask yourself why they are called Father and Son. If they are co-equal and eternal, then they are eternal friends, not Father and Son.

Of course, I believe that Jesus is the son of God…[Read more]

Saying that the son was eternal in the past is basically saying he is not the son but a second eternal God with another one called the Father.

And then you have to ask yourself why they are called Father and Son. If they are co-equal and eternal, then they are eternal friends, not Father and Son.

Of course, I believe that Jesus is the son of God…[Read more]

If we are born slaves to sin then how are our wills free?

All men have a conscience and the spirit convicts all men of sin, righteousness, and judgment.

We can also be led by the Spirit from with in.

Free will is choosing among these options. We are not without help. God has not left us defenseless against sin and evil and the inevitable…[Read more]

If we are born slaves to sin then how are our wills free?

All men have a conscience and the sin, righteousness, and judgment.

We can also be led by the Spirit.

Free will is choosing among these options. We are not without help. God has not left us defenseless against sin and evil.

God is love. He sent his son into the world to die for our sins…[Read more]

If we are born slaves to sin then how are our wills free?

All men have a conscience and the sin, righteousness, and judgment.

We can also be led by the Spirit.

Free will is choosing among these options. We are not without help. God has not left us defenseless against sin and evil.

God is love. He sent his son into the world to die for our sins…[Read more]

Hi LU!

The Spirit of the Son is the Holy Spirit shared with the Father.

God is Spirit.

The Word was God.

LU was preaching this when you were preaching something else Nick.

When you changed your mind and adopted Lu’s view (with or without her influence), does that mean you were wrong before and LU was right?

First: T8 kinda cheated by asking two questions that he views as being the same question.

Ed J. Either way I will ask both questions. But knowing kerwin they would be spaced apart by pages and thus the impact is gone.

Technically he could say I will only answer one for now, but if he was honest he could answer both now.

But he is not even…[Read more]

t8,

I have to disagree with you since by insisting that Jesus was born the Savior you deny he became the Savior by dying on the cross.

Please answer as required. This is the Hot Seat. There is no coming back from here if you are not straight up a yes or no. This sorts out those who hide the devil in the details of which I believe you and others…[Read more]

t8,

I have to disagree with you since by insisting that Jesus was born the Savior you deny he became the Savior by dying on the cross.

He was born the savior kerwin and he did what saviors do.

You clearly deny the testimony of that angel of God and you do it for all to see.

Ed,

My answer is that No, Jesus had not already performed the act that would lead to our salvation. That would come later.

Let’s be fair and put this into a biblical context with this paraphrase kerwin.

No, he was not the Christ.

But look what scripture says about your testimony. 

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the C…[Read more]

Ed,

My answer is that No, Jesus had not already performed the act that would lead to our salvation. That would come later.

Let’s be fair and put this into a biblical context with this paraphrase kerwin.

No, he was not the Christ.

But look what scripture says about your testimony. 

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the C…[Read more]

Ed,

My answer is that No, Jesus had not already performed the act that would lead to our salvation. That would come later.

Let’s be fair and put this into a biblical context with this paraphrase kerwin.

No, he was not the Christ.

But look what scripture says about your testimony. 

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the C…[Read more]

Ed,

My answer is that No, Jesus had not already performed the act that would lead to our salvation. That would come later.

Let’s be fair and put this into a biblical context and this is what you are clearly saying kerwin.

No, he was not the Christ.

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the…[Read more]