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Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
The family is not a HE. The Family doesn’t have a son, that is a relationship for the Father and mother only. For other siblings, they are brothers or sisters. Your points are easily refuted. In most cases it is just a matter of copying and pasting the same refutations that disposed of the Trinitrarians. Families are ‘THEM’.
Scripture is not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Nick about when Jesus was considered the messiah in the forum The Hot Seat 10 years ago
ED J, this is a topic between Nick and myself. If he uses you as a proxy, then it defeats the whole point of enforcing honesty to the level of yes and no. You know full well how some here tout the rules and if you give them an inch they take a mile.
Please refrain from posting. If Nick wants a discussion, then he needs to learn how to engage in…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Nick about when Jesus was considered the messiah in the forum The Hot Seat 10 years ago
ED J, this is a topic between Nick and myself. If he uses you as a proxy, then it defeats the whole point of enforcing honesty to the level of yes and no. You know full well how some here tout the rules and if you give them an inch they take a mile.
Please refrain from posting. If Nick wants a discussion, then he needs to learn how to engage in…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Nick about when Jesus was considered the messiah in the forum The Hot Seat 10 years ago
Hi T.8,
My answer is YES.
In prophetic terms.
That is a not how you are to answer. I asked specifically that he answer yes or no in a separate post, then provide and explanation in a later post if he so desires. This is to let your yes be yes and no be no, and stop the anything else from the Evil One.
Nick’s answer is probably a no if you look…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Nick about when Jesus was considered the messiah in the forum The Hot Seat 10 years ago
Hi T.8,
My answer is YES.
In prophetic terms.
That is a not how you are to answer.
Let your yes be yes and no be no, anything else is from the Evil One.
Nick’s answer is probably a no.
If I say, yes but… that is a no.
If he says, yes, and only in a particular sense, that means no in the literal sense or other senses.
The requirement is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Nick about when Jesus was considered the messiah in the forum The Hot Seat 10 years ago
Hi T.8,
My answer is YES.
In prophetic terms.
That is a not how you are to answer.
Let your yes be yes and no be no, anything else is from the Evil One.
Nick’s answer is probably a no.
If I say, yes but… that is a no.
If he says, yes, and only in a particular sense, that means no in the literal sense.
The requirement is ‘yes or no’ in the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
It seems that God hands people over to desires and doctrines when they push to far in the wrong direction. What leads a person to believe that God is multiple persons? Is it an idolaters heart, someone who trusts too much in their own understanding, or perhaps it is just indoctrination coupled with a lack of love for the truth. Interesting…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
It seems that God hands people over to desires and doctrines when they push to far in the wrong direction. What leads a person to believe that God is multiple persons? Is it an idolaters heart, someone who trusts too much in their own understanding, or perhaps it is just indoctrination coupled with a lack of love for the truth. Interesting…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
The Christians believe that the Father is greater than the Son in authority too. They also believe that both are in unity as YHVH. There are various degrees of authority within the unity of marriage and within the unity of the church, and within the unity of a tribe, a nation, etc. What is your point?
For a start. Unity is with the Father, Son,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Contextual Annihilation in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 10 years ago
Bd, everyone who has read that verse whether they believe or not have said it right?
Surely it is more than that. You must actually believe it.
Islam teaches a different Jesus. Their Jesus did not die for the sins of humanity, thus a different Jesus is being spoken of.
Anyone can make up a person and say he did this and that and then call him…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Contextual Annihilation in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 10 years ago
Bd, everyone who has read that verse whether they believe or not have said it right?
Surely it is more than that. You must actually believe it.
Islam teaches a different Jesus. Their Jesus did not die for the sins of humanity, thus a different Jesus is being spoken of.
Anyone can make up a person and say he did this and that and then call him…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Contextual Annihilation in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 10 years ago
Bd, everyone who has read that verse whether they believe or not have said it right?
Surely it is more than that. You must actually believe it.
Islam teaches a different Jesus. Their Jesus did not die for the sins of humanity, thus a different Jesus is being spoken of.
Anyone can make up a person and say he did this and that and then call him…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Adam truly the FIRST man ever? in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
KJ, this is a kind word toward you.
Teachers are judged more severely and you are obviously not up to the task. It would be better for you to not teach at the moment and instead learn. God calls us into ministry when the time is right.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
KJ, this is a kind word toward you.
Teachers are judged more severely and you are obviously not up to the task. It would bode better for you to not teach at the moment and learn. God calls us into ministry when the time is right.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
t8: For me there is one God the Father and two Lords the Father and Jesus Christ.
You are playing with words to support a doctrine that is not taught.
Remember that lord can mean master or sir.
What do you think Jesus should be called if God gave him rule over his creation?
I think Lord is apt. But God is still above him whether you give God…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
KJ, there are many who are lord. If you rent or have rented a house, then you have a landlord. But if that landlord was a Believer, then Jesus is his Lord. And guess what? God is above him, so yes in this sense he is Lord over Christ and all, but the term he is given in our NT is God. Paul distinguishes the difference between the Father and the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
KJ, there are many who are lord. If you rent or have rented a house, then you have a landlord. But if that landlord was a Believer, then Jesus is his Lord. And guess what? God is above him, so yes in this sense he is Lord over Christ and all, but the term he is given in our NT is God. Paul distinguishes the difference between the Father and the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
KJ, there are many who are lord. If you rent or have rented a house, then you have a landlord. But if that landlord was a Believer, then Jesus is his Lord,. and guess what God is above him, so yes in this sense he is Lord over Christ and all. But Paul distinguishes the difference between the Father and the Son as God and Lord. And to put this…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
KJ, there are many who are lord. If you rent or have rented a house, then you have a landlord. But if that landlord was a Believer, then Jesus is his Lord,. and guess what God is above him, so yes in this sense he is Lord over Christ and all. But Paul distinguishes the difference between the Father and the Son as God and Lord. And to put this…[Read more]
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