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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
@dig4truth
Good question. A quick google showed me this:the vacuum of space does not exert any force on the atmosphere at all. It does not “suck” the air. We associate the word “suck” with “vacuums” but it’s a misnomer. That’s not what vacuums do.
Consider an example where we’ve pumped all of the air out of some box and created a vacuum inside o…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Neil Armstrong was the first man to step on the moon. They accomplished this in a space craft with less computing power than the first Nintendo video game console
Computers were used for number crunching, for critical guidance and navigation calculations. Crews also carried slide rules for more routine calculations. So the computing power didn’t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Mike, one of the commenters in that discussion pointed me to this Youtube Channel. I thought the guy in this channel was quite talented.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Perfect explanation for the photo
So Mike. Here is what I believe is the explanation for my photo.The basic shape of the mountain starts at 600 metres above sea level, thus the shape should be mostly preserved because the bottom 600 metres doesn’t exist as far as the shape is concerned. Further, if we take into account possible refraction and a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Ah, no need to answer Mike. I know what he is saying. Yes, the top of the mountain is the shape because the bottom of the mountain is around 600 metres high, thus there is no shape to that. I didn’t consider that.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Regarding my photo, I have asked my Facebook friends in explaining it. While most comments were about skiing on the mountain or just complimenting the photo, one guy who I knew would engage in the conversation, did. Here is a snippet of that conversation:
I said:
So your best guess besides saying fake photo. Atmospheric lensing,…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Auroras again
Neither can I. So since we are unable to personally verify the stories we’ve been told about Antarctica and auroras, it’s best we leave them behind for now, and focus on things we are able to personally verify, don’t you think?
Mike, I am going to chalk one up for the Spherical Earth with this one simply because the same pheno…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Nick might have turned over a new leaf
Nick said:
Try not to get drawn into personal attacks.
That would be great Nick. Accusing people is not the smartest thing a Believer can do. Of course, I will continue to moderate the forums and also rebuke and reproof using scripture to test all teachings and assumptions.
I think it was Mike who…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
What to do if you lose your post
That’s funny Mike, I just attempted to link to this video, which I really liked, but the iPad had a glitch and the post was lost.
Hitting the back button usually brings you back to the post you were working on. Modern browsers have learned to store your data in such an event.
Another thing you can do if your p…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Nick has moved on, not
One gets the feeling that Nick doesn’t want this topic here on Heaven Net, but the simple solution for him is to just not engage in this topic.An invition to join the conversation at the Flat Earth society might have been better.
A more appropriate venue for such an odd subject.
Then he says that he hardly ever reads…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Why can’t Flat Earthers track the sun with a telescope to the otherside of the disc?
On the globe earth things can be seen that should not be able to be seen.
On the FE things that cannot be seen are beyond visibility. (Limitations, there you go)
There is a vanishing point beyond which no one can see on either model. This may be extended by…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
A mountain or city skyline that cannot be seen most days means special circumstances need to be in place in order to see them. This is true for both models. So how does this favour the Flat Earth really. While the curvature argument supposedly should be making things invisible that are not, it is also true that the Flat Earth model should make…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Natural resources in Antarctica
Does it seem feasible that companies like BP and Exxon haven’t paid billions to politicians to get their greedy little hands all over those resources?
There are two major hindrances to extracting resources from the Antarctica. The first being that it is unbelievably inhospitable and consequently expensive to set u…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Auroras
Mike said this regarding a comment I made about how auroras are formed:That’s the story we’ve been told. How can you personally verify it?
I cannot personally verify this like I can the existence of God, but the globe earth explains it better than the Flat Earth because of this one simple fact. The Globe Earth has the Antarctic as the Sou…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Mike said:
earth is a little more than 6000 years old
I have always had a problem with that. The Bible doesn’t subscribe to that. The best argument you can make from the Bible is that there is 6000 years back to Adam. But the first man was certainly not created the day the Earth was made. There could well have been many worlds before our one. You…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity Doctrine resources in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 4 months ago
T8….You seem to have trouble with the wording, JESUS CHRIST, INSTEAD OF JESUS THE CHRIST. Why not get a original Greek Translation, and you will see the wording is always “Jesus (THE) Christ”, Not “JESUS CHRIST”.
t8, I am confused, you said to Gene, “you believe that Jesus is not the Christ. You believe that Jesus Christ is the Christ.”
I…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity Doctrine resources in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 4 months ago
Hi T8,
Show me one condemning word.
Or change your attitude.
Be a true teacher.
Nick, is someone hijacking your account because you seem to have no memory of accusing others of not being led by the Spirit or not able to hear the Spirit speaking. Besides actually being against the rules in the forum, it is more important that you do not accuse…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Mike, just a quick observation regarding the photo I took. The peninsula that sticks out in the foreground is actually the very small peninsula in this map. It is called Paraparaumu…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 4 months ago
Rom 8.9
..But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to him.
Nick, you quoted this and in the same breath you accuse others here of not hearing the Spirit or being led by the Spirit.
This is why I say you judge others. Now, when you cannot answer yes or no and I quote those famous words of Jesus sermon on the Mount,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 4 months ago
Peter declared… and Jesus said upon this rock… That is good enough for me.
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