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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Thanks for the video on those Christian astronauts. Interesting thing is, you never really hear about Christian Evolutionists, although knowing how crazy this world is there are probably a few.
Mike, why are there Christian astronauts who concur with the current scientific view? They have a testimony and it is not very polite to write them all…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Mike, I think that Sagan and others assumed the Flat Earth view still had the sun as distant like the Globe Earth model. If so, then are there any lies here?
Can you show me where Sagan assumed a close earth in the Flat Earth model?
Also, in ancient times, did they believe sun is a rotating 32 miles sphere located about 3000 miles above the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
If a third well could prove a sphere (it can’t), then why in 2000 years has nobody done it?
Tyson laid his cards on the table and basically said something that anyone can prove. Pretty sure if this was a load of crock that he wouldn’t mention something that is easily testable.
You say why hasn’t anyone tried it. My answer is who knows how ma…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Mike were you calling the astronaut a servant of satan?
Imagine being that guy.
What do you do for a living ?
I’m a satanist astronaut.
What exactly is that?
Oh, I just fake spacewalks and stuff.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
What are the heavens that God created in the beginning if it doesn’t include stars? Anyone?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
I’m glad we are talking about Genesis because this seems to be one of the main reasons for believing in a Flat Earth. I believe that Genesis doesn’t rule out either model and if I or we can prove this, then it will boil down solely to science.
This discussion needs to take place here because the focus of these forums is scripture and the Flat…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Mike: “But in 1980, Carl Sagan told millions of TV viewers that the difference Eratosthenes recorded in the shadows could ONLY happen on a ball. And those people and their kids have been repeating this lie ever since.”
And would be true if the sun were distant as is widely accepted.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Okay, I photoshopped mine to get it to look as good as the other one. Not even close.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Hey Mike, I found a competing photo to my one, so mine is not so special after all. I feel sad now. The linked news article confirms the vantage point and subject.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/local-papers/kapiti-observer/8924589/Fine-weather-ahead
Now compare to mine.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
t8, I get that. I have a problem with Mike calling Sagan a liar. Neil doesn’t call him a liar. Sagan was actually on to the truth and could have used a third well to satisfy the theory. Neil goes on to satisfy the theory of a spherical earth anyway through the rest of the video.
That’s basically my view too. Regardless, if Sagan was lying, isn’t t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
LU, Mike knows that Neil is not a Flat Earther. He is using this guy to disprove Carl Sagan’s earlier assertion that the experiment proved the world was not flat. Neil is correctly saying that the experiment actually works on a Flat Earth too, but that Carl failed to mention this in his video thereby deceiving people for 40 or so years. However,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
But in 1980, Carl Sagan told millions of TV viewers that the difference Eratosthenes recorded in the shadows could ONLY happen on a ball.
Okay, I see the issue. Is it possible that Carl Sagan assumed a distant sun as the Globe model has? If so, then he would be right. But Neil points out that IF THE SUN IS CLOSE then you can get the same result…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
His experiment showed that the Earth could be round and if so, he gave the circumference. Wasn’t Neil the one in the video that said that a Flat Earth could also produce this result? So at least he is honest about that. But his real point is a third well proves the Globe Earth and dispels the Flat Earth. Are you disagreeing with this?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Mike, I am not sure what the issue is with that well experiment. I watched your Youtube video and commented on it regarding this.
So it was established that the 2 wells would produce a similar shadow regardless of a round or flat earth. The person who ran the experiment showed that the Earth could be round, but if it works on the Flat Earth,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
My guess is Flat Earthers will show that it is the utmost distance from the sun as the edge is too, the same reason as the globe earth is cold at the poles. Further, I guess you could argue that God never mentioned the continent of Antarctica either.
What I have found is they have answers to the most common questions asked.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Yes Nick, it is my site. But I only ask that we be civil, nice, helpful, and loving toward one another. You should know by now that differences of opinion are fine. Atheists and Muslims are allowed here after all.
This is a platform to test all things that try to ascend above the doctrine of Christ and true knowledge. And scripture encourages us…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Thanks Dig4Truth, I will get back to you on that.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Hi T8,
When did I threaten to leave the site?
Just to make your day?
Pay attention Nick. Not listening or dialoguing with Mike, yet you continue to do so.
No I have not given up on you yet and neither has My Father.
Now you sound like a cult leader. I go direct to God Nick through the one true mediator. We do not need you or need to believe…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Did God say that He made the earth before the sun?
Where does it say that. Of course that is possible, but want to know what you are referencing, even though I already have a good idea.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 4 months ago
Mike, yes I saw this story on the news the other day. My opinion is its inevitable because the vast majority of countries sit in or on a continent, so impossible to leave out unless you miss a whole continent. However, we don’t have it as bad as Tasmania. Even Australia forgets to add…[Read more]
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