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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Is that really what you think I’ve done, T8? Do you seriously think my understanding is based on, “I can’t see a planet up close, therefore the whole heliocentric model is false and the earth is flat”?
Obviously you have way more than that, but it is one factor right. I think you said that we should trust our instincts or something to that effe…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
No reason to do that when there has been operation “Dominic” and operation “Fishbowl” already. It’s interesting to note that “Dominic” means “Of the Lord”. So we have high altitude nuclear missles being launched under the names “Fishbowl” “Of the Lord”. You can’t make this stuff up.
If you haven’t heard of these I would do a little research on…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
T8, thanks for the video but I already had a grasp of why I can’t see the whole earth. I did enjoy his exposure of the ISS and their fisheye cameras. I have to ask, why would NASA want to give the illusion of a curved earth? Why wouldn’t they want to show the actual look of earth? Just wondering out loud.
Exactly. So maybe the curve shown is the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Mike. To say the Earth is flat is to deny all the evidence that the earth is a globe.
Just saying that that would be an even bigger conspiracy than denying there are atoms and that all ideas about atoms are wrong and all models a fake.
I noticed that you were slightly offended, but how do you think people are when they are told the Earth is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Flat Earthers, this video explains a lot of your questions about why we can’t easily see the whole Earth and explains the view the ISS gets.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Quick question that I hope you can answer. While I ask a lot of questions, I really do not expect and answer although they are appreciated of course. But this is something testable for me because I have travelled very close to the North Pole. While I was there, I observed sunlight till nearly 4am in the morning. And if I had been there earlier in…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
What did Enoch see and what were the pillars. They were apparently the 4 winds that are between heaven and earth.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
“Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for …days” <– day 4″
If the primeval earth’s atmosphere cleared up on day 4, then yes on day 4 you could see through to the stars and moon.
Amen. The sun, moon and all the stars on day four. The earth on day one.
Same again. The Earth was vo…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Guys why not start up a GoFundMe page where Flat Earthers can donate to, to build a rocket. Then blast that thing into the firmament, and create another large crack in it. Then tell the Ball Earthers to explain how there are now two cracks in the firmament. Once they give a reasonable answer, then show them the video of how it happened.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Dig4truth, when you think about it technically, the sun and moon are in your brain.
Light travels to your eyes and the brain converts the signal to a picture like a web browser interprets HTML code or an analogue TV converts the TV signals to a picture.
Everything is about perspective though and this is no different to the sun and moon in the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
“Out of heaven” can easily mean from our heaven, as in where the birds fly and the judgment was certainly from the Lord. So I don’t see any contradiction in this verse.
Exactly, so when we look through the atmosphere toward where the birds fly and we see stars, we are not told how far away these things are, but that we can see them in the heave…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
It is not hard to see Mike and Dig4truth why we see things differently than NASA and other space agencies and satellite services. We have telescopes and microscopes in which to see distant things and to see the world of small things. Our natural range is obviously limited and these tools help us to see beyond that curtain. Now you may deny…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Looks a little different in our cameras and telescopes than in NASA’s…
I wonder why that is. Could it be our cameras and telescopes are not as powerful. I once saw Saturn and her rings through a decent telescope at an amatuer astronomy event where people were invited to a place with little light pollution to point the telescopes at different hea…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
They believed the sun, the moon, and the stars were lights in a very close firmament… not millions of miles away.
Believed is the key word here. Mankind has believed in many things that turned out to be different than expected.
Fire and brimstone the destruction suffered by Sodom and Gomorrah was from heaven right? But is that just a meteor or a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
So in 2000 years, a third shadow has been the only thing needed to prove beyond a doubt that our world is curved, and yet the general public knows of no such famous experiment done by any scientist? There are no textbooks touting the great accomplishment of “Professor X”, whose famous “Three Shadow Experiment” confirmed the rotundity of the plac…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Thanks for the video on those Christian astronauts. Interesting thing is, you never really hear about Christian Evolutionists, although knowing how crazy this world is there are probably a few.
Mike, why are there Christian astronauts who concur with the current scientific view? They have a testimony and it is not very polite to write them all…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Mike, I think that Sagan and others assumed the Flat Earth view still had the sun as distant like the Globe Earth model. If so, then are there any lies here?
Can you show me where Sagan assumed a close earth in the Flat Earth model?
Also, in ancient times, did they believe sun is a rotating 32 miles sphere located about 3000 miles above the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
If a third well could prove a sphere (it can’t), then why in 2000 years has nobody done it?
Tyson laid his cards on the table and basically said something that anyone can prove. Pretty sure if this was a load of crock that he wouldn’t mention something that is easily testable.
You say why hasn’t anyone tried it. My answer is who knows how ma…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Mike were you calling the astronaut a servant of satan?
Imagine being that guy.
What do you do for a living ?
I’m a satanist astronaut.
What exactly is that?
Oh, I just fake spacewalks and stuff.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
What are the heavens that God created in the beginning if it doesn’t include stars? Anyone?
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