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Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Jesus came in the flesh. The Word became flesh. The Word was WITH God. God made all through his Word. God made all through his son. It is written. We cannot pretend it is not written.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Not verified in this topic. But I think the FEers have an answer to this. The second light (moon) appears like that on a FE too. So a person looking at the moon on one side sees a different orientation to someone on the other side of the moon. However, yes there is probably a problem because a person in South America shouldn’t see the moon at all…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Thanks David.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
The Dig Rule Part II
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and t…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
The Dig Rule
T8 said: “Not my theory at all. I believe 7 stages which could have been 7 minutes or 7 million years. It doesn’t give us the exact unit.”
Dig said: Yes it it does give us the exact unit – a day. But your 7 million years might give enough time for the earth’s evolution. That is if your into that evolution stuff.Okay, let’s run with…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
And you guys call me the wack job.
I don’t call you a wackjob, but yes my view is I think you are wacky with some things, particularly the Flat Earth.
That picture you posted is a misrepresentation. Gravity starts from the centre and moves out. The universe doesn’t have an up so to speak or a force of gravity that means you can jump off the edge…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
But let’s run with your theory. Is 7,000 years enough time for a an atmosphere to develop and then for the sun to appear thru the atmosphere? How long would it take for just the atmosphere to develop?
Not my theory at all. I believe 7 stages which could have been 7 minutes or 7 million years. It doesn’t give us the exact unit.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
There could well be an end time alien delusion.
Could also be because of the Islamic end time eschatological view where the real Jesus from the bible is thought to be Al-Masih ad-Dajjal in Islam thought.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Creation days
T8, how many days did God command for us to work before taking one day off? And more importantly, what was the reason that Jehovah Himself gave for this commandment?
The Earth has reflections or images of heaven. We are God’s image. Eden and the rivers were like Paradise and the river of life. That river of life is spirit, but all…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
T8, I think you missed the point. Rev 18:23 and the light of a lamp will not shine in you any longer; and the voice of the bridegroom and bride will not be heard in you any longer; for your merchants were the great men of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery. Entire nations can and will be deceived.
They are deceived.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
T8, I think you missed the point. If the earth is bulging at the equator then the surface would also have to be effected. Do people on the equator feel this force? Is it detected in the placid lakes?
The atmosphere is moving with it so no. If I am in a car going 50 km/h, I can throw a tennis ball in the air and catch it one second later despite…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
What are the deceptions exactly
So you caught that it was a deception, and that the entire world was involved in it? Good. Now think on those words I told you… “We accept the version of the world with which we are presented”… even if that version is an entire worldwide deception.
The world teaches all kinds of false religion, atheism, evoluti…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Equatorial bulge
The earth, it is said, has a bulge at the equator. Does anyone know how high this bulge is?
It’s 14 miles high, so they say, that’s higher than any mountain and higher than the airplanes fly from the surface! That’s quite a lot of centrifugal force! Yet the water on the earth does not flow to the equator or fly off of the earth.…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Yes there is a morning and evening, but that is also open to context. For example, we sometimes say ‘the dawn of time’ even though dawn is the first appearance of light in the sky before sunrise.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 3 months ago
Hi T8,
For some odd reason you think that those who find your weak logic and reason based interpretations of the prophetic and spiritual word of God lacking, are in opposition to the truth. Why is this?Because you teach the opposite of:
- To the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord,
before…
- To the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord,
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Hang on Nick, I will ask him.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
God made all through his son.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Looks beautiful there Mike. Reminds me of the movie ‘Cars’.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
What does scripture actually claim?
Dig4Truth said: I don’t need to prove the first day without the sun was a regular day because Scripture says it was. I hope you can see that it is not my claim but what the scriptures claim.
Common sense should tell you that 24 hour day without the sun has problems. It is more likely that either the sun a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
God defeats Evil with the weak things of the world, and even an insignificant yacht race disproves the Flat Earth.
I don’t even need to bring out the big guns do I?I will try and read your posts above later tonight, but the obvious answer is you are not seeing the true picture with your math and you expect us to believe in a gnat and ignore the…[Read more]
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