It is a popular teaching that death means separation.

• Physical death is the separation of body and soul;
• Second death is the separation of soul and God or Spirit;
• Dead to sin is the separation of the Believer with sin;
• Dead to Law is the separation of Believer and the law;

It seems that to be away from the body is to be present with the…[Read more]

Anyway,  just wondering what your thoughts are September 23, 2017 sign.  Many thought it would be the day of the rapture.  Obviously not the case… but it still happened nonetheless.  What do you think?

Hello, I hope all us well with you. 🙂

Personally, I think these are signs. But attaching it to the rapture was always a personal opinion that…[Read more]

Dig said:

Maybe you would like to answer this question since you claim to understand metaphors. Are the pillars of the earth just a metaphor or do the scriptures present them as a factual thing? Apparently T8 didn’t have an answer or just thought we would all forget the question was asked. Maybe you will be different and have an a…

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Stellarium
Here is a software package that predicts all the eclipses. Try it out Mike.

Then ask yourself how they know the eclipses in advance if it assumes the Earth is a sphere and it goes around the sun.

http://stellarium.org/

Mike said:

T8 says:

Scientists believe the moon was not always tidally locked to the Earth, thus space debris would have hit all over the moon in its past. And there is no reason to believe that the moon has always been tidally locked. Things change all the time in the universe like our climate. One support of this, is the fact that the far…[Read more]

Maybe the Earth is at the centre when all things are considered, God knows. But the Earth definitely goes around the sun. That is one of your tenets I disagree with. The other one is that the Earth is a flat disc of some kind. No, it is a globe as testified by many different witnesses and calculations.

The Solar System model fixes observational anomalies near Earth
Mike, whether you put the sun around the Earth or the Earth around the sun, it won’t make much difference to observations in the universe. But observations in our own system, it will make a huge difference. The Solar System sees wandering stars take on a regular elliptical orbit…[Read more]

Mike. Please explain how the Flat Earth model produces this effect?

lol. Nick, are you really trying to convince people that “Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord”, spirtually speaking really means, “NOT THIS DAY in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is NOT the Messiah, the Lord”.

I mean come on. No one is going to believe the spiritual meaning i…[Read more]

Nick,

I believe that this day in the town of David a Savior was born. That day he was the Messiah, the Lord.

You believe it not. Thus, you do not believe that scripture which is a declaration from a heavenly messenger.

Reality is not going to change Nick because you want so much for it not to be true.

Reality vs Nick? reality wins.

Jodi said:

Good Morning t8,
We are not changing scripture, the child that was born was our savior and he is our master. But we were not saved by his birth, he was not anyone’s master when he was a baby.
“She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.”
He was called a savior because he would be

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Paul says in 2 Cor. 5:8:
‘to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord’

It’s simple: If you belong to God and you aren’t in your body, then you are with Jesus Christ.

You need to start with the verse being correct and go from there. What you are doing is saying it is wrong and giving human reasons as to why.

Gene. Read the scripture carefully. It is a message from a heavenly messenger. I believe it and you have rejected it.

Your human reasoning gets in the way.

Jodi said:

Hi t8,
As Gene I believe already pointed out, upon his birth were the people saved from their sins? His birth wiped away our sins? NO! At the river Jesus was BORN of God’s Spirit and then he was sent out to speak the words of God and perform God’s will. He went to the cross being perfected as a human being and then he died, by that deat…

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Yes he was born the Christ as it is written:

“Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord”.

Some teach that he was NOT the Christ and they try to make out it is only by leading of the Spirit can you turn that verse into the opposite:

“Today in the town of David a Savior has NOT been born to you; he is…[Read more]

I believe that scripture is right. I merely agree with it. You are free to disagree with my belief that scripture is right.

“Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord”.

You are trying to convince people he was not the messiah. That is neither spiritual or privy to secret knowledge. It is just plain wro…[Read more]

Two birds with one stone

GENE said: The angel was referencing to them that, that day WAS “BORN” UNTO THEM, JESUS THE PROPHECIED SAVIOR. But that took time to occur and many thing had to happen till it was accomplished. Because if salvation had already happened at his birth, then why did it need to happen later in his life, he had to live out his…

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Watchman said: Gal 3:16. Jesus is simply saying I am he that had been prophesied and written about.

But he said: “Before Abraham, I am”.

Abraham is referenced.

Jesus said “My sheep hear my voice”.

Jesus said, “Before Abraham, I am”.

Conclusion: His sheep hear and believe his own words.