Concordance: “Going Down”
Ephesians 4:26 – “In your anger do not sin”: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry,
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Go Down

I can see here in the New Testament that the sun set or going down of the sun is accurate. Except you do not believe the sun goes down. But I believe it,…[Read more]

Concordance: “Stood Still”
Mike, you made me pull out the big guns. Three concordances and they are heavy. I use to be able to do this from the Web. I can’t see an online Concordance anymore. Anyone know where there is one? Oh well, manual typing here we come and the books get a dusting.
Joshua 10:13: “So the sun stood still,”
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My guess is leave the Earth where it is (or thereabouts) and draw an imaginary perpendicular line running from the line created by the light dark border and toward the centre of the circumference in the lit up area and place the sun there at some distance. Imagine the sun is the about the same size and obviously, the Earth (vantage point) being…[Read more]

Rockets arching? lol. Often rockets are the payload and once the satellite or spaceship is in space, then the rockets come back down to earth. This is not going to convince people that the earth is flat.

I could also say rockets have been exploding since the 50s.

But I can also say that rockets have been going into…[Read more]

Mike, can I remind you of the fact that I am not here to be right, to win arguments, and to prove I am better than everyone else. I am here to discover truth. Thus, when I say that I do not believe your Flat Earth arguments, that is not me being carnal and trying to win at all costs, no, it is me telling you the truth. I have listened to your…[Read more]

Your first point is a good one in your Youtube rebuttal. If you think that is the bottom of the mountain, then where is Ohakune? Yes, that town should be in the photo because it lies directly below the lower flanks of the mountain in view.

So now we have roughly 2000 metres of mountain to deal with and given that you cannot see Ohakune, it is as…[Read more]

You keep bringing up a point – like scripture saying the sun rises and sets

The sun going down is one of the meanings Mike and it is the one that is repeated in scripture and it is the wording we use even today. Further, the sun stood still also can mean it stopped doing what it does. What does the sun do? From our perspective it moves and it s…[Read more]

Yes you are right Mike, 600m is closer to the real altitude. However, in other places I put 600m as well, but it must have slipped my mind since. Now that I think about it, I remember thinking with Ruapehu being 2,797 m, that I mentally put it down to 2000m of actual mountain (yes slightly higher) to make the calculations easy. But my point stands…[Read more]

Myself and two sons decided google our names and see who came up no1 and we got this guy.
Wow, what a legend. While I’m not an NFL fan, a player like that could surely tempt me to be one.
Enjoy!

I’ve set it to where the moon is waxing gibbous.  I circled the waxing gibbous moon in red.  The question is whether light reflected from the lit side of the earth could reflect to the unlit side of that waxing gibbous moon.  In other words, will light follow my red wavy path to hit the back of that moon?

Don’t know. When I do a demo with tree…[Read more]

Mike, I don’t have to jump through your hoops to prove to myself if your theory is correct or not. I don’t need to waste my time understanding how an eclipse can take place while a a gibbon is waxing himself. Just get 3 soccer balls and place them on the floor. You will easily be able to get a configuration where light can bounce off the earth and…[Read more]

Step 1) Make sure both Moon and Sun are around the same size and make the Earth a lot bigger.

Step 2) Put the Earth directly underneath the moon using the same line direction from the sun to the moon.

Step 3) Push the moon upward in the graphic till it is about the same distance from the Earth but perhaps a few pixels further.

If you’re not explaining why a scripture that says the sun stopped moving in the midst of heaven can’t possibly mean the sun stopped moving in the midst of heaven, I’m not listening.

Explain the sun going down then. Your view is at odds with the sun going down Mike. You can’t cherry pick. If you are going to make a universal statement, then apply…[Read more]

I still want an HONEST and DIRECT answer to WHY it CAN’T be EXACTLY as the scripture clearly describes it.

Why is this not exactly as the scripture explains it? Sometimes scripture is written as it is, but from our perspective. The Bible says for example that the sun goes down, yet you would argue that it never goes down on a Flat Earth while we k…[Read more]

Mike, the sun has to be below the horizon given the part of the moon that is being lit. But you assume the dark area in view is followed by a sudden drop off thus not enabling light to reflect from the earth to the moon beyond that. Not so. The Earth is way bigger than you imagine. I would suggest the lit up part of the Earth is beyond the horizon…[Read more]

So another Flat Earth argument refuted.

What is the next biggest argument?

Earthshine demo
This should help Mike.

Notice that if you think in 2D it seems impossible.

Okay, how can sunlight hitting the right side of the earth reflect off the earth to light the left side of that waxing gibbous moon?

Mike, if you have a problem picturing how this can occur then work it out yourself. What is the point attacking the idea when it is just your limited mind that is the problem. I just did a short demo to myself…[Read more]

It’s not a matter of me thinking God needed to do it that way. It’s a matter of me believing the scriptures that say God did do it that way.

But from our perspective. If it wasn’t from our perspective, then we may not understand it or notice it. God gives us a taste of reality but a limited one. After death, we will see things much more cle…[Read more]

So what’s lighting up the dark side if it can’t be reflection from the earth?

I would say the Earth is lighting it.

Oh no… did you just use your own brain to solve a problem for the first time in this thread? Kudos!

Thank you. Did I win a prize?