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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
According to your model, every single star is WAY bigger than our tiny earth. Jesus says the stars (definitely plural, presumably all of them) will fall to the earth.
Lol.
I think you might want to Google “falling stars”, and find out that – even according to YOUR model – they have nothing whatsoever to do with stars.
I don’t need to change my an…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
There is absolutely nothing in scripture that requires the Earth to be flat and covered by a glass dome
What we are told in scripture is that there is the earth and above it is the firmanent which separates water from water. Science basically says the same thing. Above earth and sea is air that thins out. Clouds which are water are above. This…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
But I keep telling you… it wasn’t “Hebrew culture” that told Moses how God made the earth fixed on foundational pillars so it can’t be moved; how He made a firmament to divide the waters above from the waters below; how He placed the sun, moon and stars in that firmament, and how He can open and close windows in it to let the waters above flo…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
Your not thinking straight Mike. A beast with seven heads and ten horns will come out of the sea and Jesus will return with a sward coming from his mouth.
Back to the drawing board Mike.
Just know that things were written so that the wicked will not understand. The way you interpret things, anyone including the wicked would understand it.
Do…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 6 years, 10 months ago
Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast 2017 – Trump Inauguration
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70% percent of millennials in a new poll say that they are likely to vote for a socialist candidate.
“Socialism, in all its forms, always appeals to mankind’s covetousness. Socialism, while it comes cloaked i

Proclaimer replied to the topic Socialism has become cool in America in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
70% percent of millennials in a new poll say that they are likely to vote for a socialist candidate.
“Socialism, in all its forms, always appeals to mankind’s covetousness. Socialism, while it comes cloaked in morality, is a wolf in sheep’s clothing attempting to hide the fact it’s utterly immoral. Covetousness is one of the most difficult sins t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
Flat Earther Secrets, Evidence, And Body Language
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
Job 9:5-7 It is God who removes the mountains, they know not how, When He overturns them in His anger;
6 Who shakes the earth out of its place, And its pillars tremble; 7 Who commands the sun not to shine, And sets a seal upon the stars;Dig, the moon will become blood too. The Bible is written so the wicked will not understand. You cannot take e…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
You left this part out…
Psalm 19
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
Well yes, the sky or atmosphere, outer space certainly shows his handiwork. Obviously we cannot see the other galaxies which could be the heavens.
Well we can actually see Andromeda as a star in the firmament.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
Can you produce a single scholarly article that claims what you do – that the Bible DOESN’T teach of a stationary earth set on foundational pillars, and surrounded by a vaulted dome in which are the sun, moon, and stars running appointed circuits over the earth, and above which are waters that can be let through windows of the vaulted dome to fl…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
IF you took Jesus’ pronouncement that the stars will fall from the firmament to the earth as LITERAL – would you still say that there is no contradiction between the Biblical model and the heliocentric model? YES or NO?
Yes. No contradiction. Stars fall to earth all the time. I have seen too many to count. They are usually rocks burning up in th…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
And now, from a high altitude balloon that’s NOT using a fisheye lens to fool people…
Of course lenses can distort (refraction lol), but regardless of the lens used, a trip around the world is only possible in a globe. You would argue that going around the world is following the grooves on a record, but satellites are imaging earth 24/7, so do you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
In biblical cosmology, the firmament is the structure above the atmosphere of Earth, conceived as a vast solid dome.
What the ancients believed about the universe and science is not the same as scripture which was inspired by God. Men read the Bible through their cultural lens just as we do today.
How many so-called experts and scholars have…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
What do we know from scripture about this firmament that sheweth God’s handywork?
It divides the waters above from the waters below. (Gen 1)
God called it “heaven”. (Gen 1)
God placed two great lights IN this firmament – one to govern the day and one to govern the night. (Gen 1)
God placed ALL the stars IN this firmament. (Gen 1)
It is stron…Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
When you read about the heavens and the firmament, people imagined the Flat Earth because that was the taught knowledge of the time. We can still believe in the firmament and heavens, given the knowledge we have today. We both believe and read the scripture, the only difference is, you are applying an old debunked idea to it. God never told us the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
Wow! Every honest scholar in the history of the world (most of them Christians themselves) will tell you point blank what the writers of scripture believed about our world
Wow, have you not figured it out yet. Writers of scripture were revealed things by God. Some of it they did not themselves understand. John said that he saw locusts with men’s…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
Mike, you say “Food for thought”. The real question is what are you smoking?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 10 months ago
Btw, how was the ISS built? Where can I see some footage of the construction process?
Yes, we know this is impossible in your world Mike.
But God divided our languages because if he didn’t do that, we would work together and nothing would be impossible.
You totally underestimate what man is capable of. We may be fallen, but we are still made in…[Read more]
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