Clearly your theory is flawed then because Rome was the one ‘that is’ or current when the Revelation was given.

And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is,

Anyway, thanks for answering Berean. That is all I need to know about your theory. It is a non-starter for me.

Berean & Gene, 

And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

Is Rome the sixth kingdom in Revelation 17:9-11?

Yes / No

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T8….if you can see,  Daniel spoke of only  Babyloian  kingdoms that would rise up after kING NEBURCHNASSER

1………The head of Gold ………………Babyloian Empire……………………Neburchnasser

2……….The chest and arms…………..Medo-Persian Empire. …………….Daruis

3……….The belly of Brass……………. Greece Empire…………………………..Alexander the great

4……….The legs of Iron………………..Rom…

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A dome inside a dome
Wow, you guys go on about how bad refraction is, and then you give us the dome inside the dome perspective. Let’s look at this objectively instead. See those 3 guys below? They should see the same stars in the same rotation if they are all on the same latitude and looking south. But reality differs to this proposition, so…[Read more]

The Theory of Everything
What is the earth was a triangle (3D). That would explain the flat ground and also the ability to circumnavigate.

Whose with me?

Post number please.

There are two adams. If Jesus is a mere man from Adam, then all will die because all will inherit death.

Thankfully, we believe that Jesus Christ the Son of God came from the Father and not Adam. In the son we will live.

Why are the stars rotated to 3 observers on different  continents in the southern hemisphere in a 24 hour period?

Gene.

How about a numbered list with just headings. Then put the same list into Revelation 17:9-11. Remember, that five had already fallen at the time of the prophecy.

T8……YOU ARE CORRECT, but Daniel shows Six kingdoms not four or five, the fifth kingdom is the one we are in right now, the Sixth comes next and that is the kingdom JOHN is speaking from as the “one that is”.  And after the sixth kingdom of Jesus Christ

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If we start with Egypt as first head, and that we believe that John considered the heads at his time (the moment when he receives the visions), we have Greece as the last fallen head (the fifth)
According to this “view”
Rome is the sixth (the one is)

The seventh says Rev.17 should not last long.

Questions / problems? ??

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I guess this debate is all wrapped up.

We live on a globe.

1)Babylon

2)Medo-Persan

3)Grecia

4)Rome impérial and pagan

5)Papal Rome

6) Time of judgment when 5 are fallen and one is

One is was the kingdom that was current. That was Rome. Rome is the no 4 Kingdom in Daniel’s prophecy and no 6 in John’s prophecy.

There’s a lot of cruelty to humans too.

Is that true of any other virus. If so, then I think it is possible. If not, then very unlikely IMO.

I think this was mentioned in one of those videos.

Due to starvation in China, the came up with ways to cook all kinds of things. And it creates the chance for viruses like this.

It could be said that Socialism created this virus.

Yes, their cruelty to animals is abhorrent.

T8……it don’t,  but neither does yours.  Daniel said nothing about Egypt or Assyria,   He started with king Neburchnasser  as the head of Gold and went from there to our present time the feet of Iron and clay.

Lol.

I’ll give you a hint. The person who started this thread gave it a name. The name is a scripture. Read that scripture.

T8……it don’t,  but neither does yours.  Daniel said nothing about Egypt or Assyria,   He started with king Neburchnasser  as the head of Gold and went from there to our present time the feet of Iron and clay.

Been through this before with you Gene. It would be good if you laid attention.

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From Revelation 17

“Five have fallen
One exists
The other one hasn’t shown up yet.”
……………………. ………………….

1 – BABYLON

2 – MEDO-PERSAN

3 – GREECE

4 – ROME (IMPERIAL AND PAGAN)

5 – ROME (PAPAL)
ALL 10 HORNS ARE CONNECTED
WITH THE FIFTH HEAD (PAPAL)

How does this make sense?

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457 BC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>{27AD>☆|>34AD}>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 508>> 538>>>>>>>1788>> 1844

538  +  1260>>>>>>1798 (Dan.12.7)

508  +   1290>>>>> 1798(Dan.12.11)

538  + 1335>>>>>>>> 1844 (v.12)

☆ : Death of Christ

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