He (Jesus) is the “word” (God’s messenger.) I know Christ was with God from the beginning and I am researching this now. In the Scriptures, the meaning of the term “beginning” depends on the context. Here the Greek word ar·kheʹ cannot refer to “the beginning” of God the Creator, for he is eternal, having no beginning. (Ps 90:2) It must, therefore…

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Thanks for the history lesson. Yes I the emergence and establishment of the Trinity Doctrine is fickle indeed. It is wrought with the works of men.

I do not think that there are Trinitarians debating here right now.

When I Say THAT Jésus IS God , I mean He IS OF the SAME nature of the Father

Yes this is what I thought and I am with you regarding that.

It’s tough because when we use a capital letter it is the same as a word in Greek that is preceded by the definite article. So when we say ‘God’ it basically means ”the God’. But John 1:1-3 doesn’t have the…[Read more]

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Revelation is filled with symbolic language. It is filled with symbols.John does tell us ‘exactly’ what the image of a burning lake of fire and sulfur was. John explains what the lake of burning fire and sulfur is. John tells us the lake of burning fire and sulfur is death — the second death.The first death is a ‘sleep’ because there i…

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Is this you too Berean?

Jesus lived a man’s life even though he was God

If the Father is the only true God as scripture states, then your verse basically says:

Jesus lived a man’s life even though he was The Father

I believe and I think you do too that it means that he had the same nature and as we know, he emptied himself and became a man.

1 Timothy 1:17
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Please notice that “Jesus Christ” is not a lexical definition of logos. (lexical definition relating to the words or vocabulary of a language.) This verse does not say, “In the beginning was Jesus.” “The Word” is not synonymous with Jesus, or even “the Messiah.”

Yet the parallels are strikingly similar.

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But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes’ and your ‘No’ be ‘No. ’Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.

In other words people, just be honest. No need to swear or give out essays. Keep it simple. Do not hide the Devil in the details. Be like a child for the kingdom belongs to them.

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You: “Do not let deceit in your heart win again. Be honest and let light into the darkness where deceit lies.”

ME: This is total slander, care to give me an example as to when you knew that I had deceit in my heart and it won?

Not my measure of judgement. Don’t shoot the messenger.

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Proclaimer, I see your still hung up on the word, “Before”…

I see you are still avoiding dimple yes or no questions regarding what you believe. If you avoid scrutiny and do not seek, you will be deceived. It is that simple

The point of a topic here is to uncover the truth.

But you need honest people in the process to make that happen.

Unfortunately there are people here who are not honest.

They cannot answer a simple yes or no.

Thus, their answers must be coming from the Evil One.

But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes’ and your ‘No’ be ‘No. … Whatever is more than the…[Read more]

The point of a topic here is to uncover the truth.

But you need honest people in the process to make that happen.

Unfortunately there are people here who are not honest.

They cannot answer a simple yes or no.

Thus, their answers must be coming from the Evil One.

But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes’ and your ‘No’ be ‘No. … Whatever is more than the…[Read more]

Proclaimer, I don’t read the verse and see it as you do, so your question doesn’t work.

Its not a verse Jodi but a statement worded by me.

Do you believe the statement?

Yes No I don’t know.

For those who think that America and Trump are chosen by God – lol, is all I can say.

I remember when @miia said this.

This is for both Gene and Jodi to answer.

Is this statement what you believe, yes, no, or don’t know.

The messiah’s name is Jesus and also The Word of God. He is Jesus but he is not The Word of God.

Yes or no.

I realise you will not an answer this directly because both of you are not honest people. Can you see the deceit in your heart now? You…[Read more]

Jodi, is this statement what you believe, yes, no, or don’t know.

The messiah’s name is Jesus and also The Word of God. He is Jesus but he is not The Word of God.

Yes or no.

And I realise you will not an answer this directly because you are not honest enough. Can you see the deceit in your heart now?

Berean. You will lucky to get a straight answer out if these guys. This is their tactic when they are stumped. I hope they can see their own deceit leading to repentance.

Hi Edj.

I think you’re the only one here who thinks the Holy Spirit will come to Earth on a horse.