Proclaimer…..please explain this then.

Provides 22:6……”Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.”

How does that stack up with your doctrine of “freewill” thinkers?

Easy. When you are shown a better way, you stick with that because you can see the other ways are not great. So you choose the be…[Read more]

Proclaimer….. “O” it’s your lack of understanding, thats why you need the Spirit of the truth to guide your mind , into the truth, but what “captivating” your mind, hence your “will” “NOW” , IS preventing you from this subject it seems. So you not as “free” as you assumed you were right?

I ask for a simple descussion, and you bounce off the wall…

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Hi Gene.

You know those verses you wanted me to look at? Well I can’t give you the answer in this instance because free will doesn’t exist and it must be determined for me not to answer your question. If I don’t give you the answer then that is why. Sorry, but there I’d not much I can do about that.

Son of God means being born from God. The son of God was sent into this world.

Move on please.

So one may be given the freedom to make a choice, but the choice that they make is DEPENENT upon what they were taught and how they were treated.

That’s free will. Nobody here us arguing that we can choose to do anything. That isn’t part of the free will argument.

Everybody has a conscience and enough evidence to prove there is  a God and there…[Read more]

He admits to free will on one hand then says no free will. That’s a perfect example of a forked tongue.

And all authority comes from God the Father and is delegated. And Jesus Christ is still the Word of God.

His name is Jesus so he is Jesus. His name is the Word of God, so he is the Word of God.

Solid truth right there if you have eyes to see and ears to hear.

And all authority comes from God the Father and is delegated. And Jesus Christ is still the Word of God.

His name is Jesus so he is Jesus. His name is the Word of God, so he is the Word of God.

Solid truth right there if you have eyes to see and ears to hear.

PROCLAIMER….. there is nothing that Jesus ever did that we can’t do either, nothing, even greater works we can do, then he did. THAT is if you “truly”  believe what he said.

And once again, you use scripture to try and debunk other scripture. You are confused. I read about how we are able to do greater works because he went to the Father and in t…[Read more]

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God’s nature is divine his essence is spirit
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.

For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
Divine nature pertaining to…[Read more]

Berean…..I want Proclaimer’s  response to my Challenge,  if you want to be included then please go back and address “each” scripture I have given , and tell me who was the one speaking, in each one, and give me your reason for saying it.

I have said and maintain by ““proof”  that it was the same person speaking to John in verse 7 , 9, 10, 11, 12…

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Jodi and I ‘both” know we have freedom to exercise our Will’s,

Thank you.

Amen. This topic debunks the false idea that Jesus was only ever a man.

You need to think more than you speak.

We are all born with sinful nature, we didn’t choose to be born with sinful nature. We don’t choose to be born of God either.

A moot point. We may not have chosen our nature, but we certainly choose what nature we ultimately want.

Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the…[Read more]

It’s God’s mercy upon us, not self-righteousness. God’s mercy is GIVEN not chosen, and when it’s given it produces good fruit. The potter has power over the clay, not the clay is his own potter.

A moot point. Yes it is given, but you have to choose to accept it.

It’s a gift and not all accept it.

Back to the drawing board Jodi.

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Jesus OVERCAME, he conquered his weak flesh and denied all temptation going to the cross as a lamb without spot or blemish, which he did BECAUSE the eternal Spirit was upon him without measure.

We too have this choice. Deny the flesh and let the Spirit lead and guide us instead. A choice we are given. Up to us.