You: Likewise, we know that the Word was theos means the Word was divine as there is no definite article in John 1:1c.

Me: I agree.

“the Logos was divine” – The Bible: James Moffatt Translation, by James Moffatt.
“and the Word was divine” – The Bible: An American Translation, by John M. P. Smith and Edgar J. Goodspeed, Chicago.
“so the Word was…

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Hi Proclaimer, I keep on hearing this from the mouth of many non-trinitarians. I wonder how they differentiate ‘the word’ from ‘word’? Similarly how divine is different from God? So you want to differentiate your self from Trinitarians stating that Jesus is not God but he is divine? This is the problem with NT it is diversity on Christo…

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Grieving over Jerusalem
“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who have been sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until y…[Read more]

<h2>Eight Woes</h2>
<span style=”color: #003366;”>13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut the kingdom of heaven in front of people; for you do not enter it yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.</span>

<span style=”color: #003366;”>15 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, bec…[Read more]

Of course we all know that people will reject the messiah and by extension the New Testament. Jesus did say this about the Pharisees who were teachers of the law.

For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

How do you get that he created all things from ‘Zoe’?

I googled it and this came up which I thought was interesting.

In the third century, Alexandrian Jews translated the Hebrew name Eve to its Greek equivalent, Zoe. The name became popular with early Christians, who associated its meaning of “life” with eternal life.

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@dannyd

Hi Proclaimer,
I finally got it.
God is not a nature. He is an identity.
Thanks for making that clear.
It’s very hard to think clear sometimes because of
the things we were being indoctrinated in our past.

Hey that is awesome. It really isn’t that difficult, but as you say, when you have been taught otherwise it is. We need to unlearn s…[Read more]

To all……Your using the word “firstborn”,  to mean first created.

Not so. Creation is defined for us. It is all that was made by God through the Word.

Nothing was created outside of this.

Thus, the Word is not created.

The Word was WITH God in the beginning.

Thus, was begotten directly by God.

From that, all things were created by God throu…[Read more]

Theos is a Greek word used in the NT. In the NT, knowing YHVH is both God and Lord, the NT usually designates the Father as God and the Son as Lord.

Theos is used to describe more than the Father and the Son. It can refer to the following:

• a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinities
• spoken of the only and true God
• refers to…

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OMG, what is wrong with my post exactly?

I can’t help it if you keep misunderstanding things. Not my fault. Read my post again. It simply is saying that ‘theos’ can be applied to one or many. Further, I have taught in the past it can be applied to judges, Satan, idols, and the one true God.

Of course context and definite articles or lack of them…

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SO all things were not made THROUGH him?

@berean

All things were made by him(“THE WORD); and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Is this a contradiction then?

The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or a…[Read more]

The word Lord is used for THE FATHER as well as the SON.

And of Joseph and others.

Including the landlord you may have paid rent to.

For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many so-called gods and lords), 6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we exist. An…[Read more]

“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”

There it is. God is greater than Lord.

YHWH is translated as LORD in the Old Testament.

Kurios is translated as Lord in the New Testament.

Think of Joseph. He was made Lord over Egypt. Except he didn’t have lordship over the Pha…[Read more]

You are correct, Abraham is not talking to the Father. He is talking to YHVH however

He is talking to God the Father, but through the Son or Angel of YHWH.

Do you not understand. If you see the Son you see the Father.

Not all instances say Angel of the LORD. But some say The Angel in the New Testament because they understand what is going…[Read more]

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

So the one true God gave his one Son for us. Reject this gift of salvation at your own peril.

The messiahs work is done. Grace toward sinners wont last forever.

The door will close at some point.

Now back to the question I applied to you.

Why is the one true God not using the plural form?

You believe that God is two persons at least.

Why is it not using the plural form?

I don’t remember saying that you need to “shut your mouth”. That said, I do believe it is best for a fool to shut their mouth and be thought a fool rather than open it and remove all doubt.

Is that the context of the “shut your mouth” comment I supposedly made?

If so, I need to break it to you that I made a quote which by the way still stands…[Read more]