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    Hi Adam Pastor, I haven't read your last post yet, I have just skimmed over it. But I will read properly when I have more time and will read the linked page that you gave. thxFor now, I wonder if any can validate the following quotes:Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th Edition, Volume 3, page 365–Baptism was changed from the name of Jesus to Father,…[Read more]

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    Quote (ringo111 @ May 15 2004,05:50)Is there another post talking about the validity of the Father Son Holy Spirit Baptism V.S. BAptised into the name Jesus christ???Id like to explore this and see what other people think. ^_^No there isn't at the moment, but feel free to discuss this subject here, as it is related to the Trinity Doctrine and the…[Read more]

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    Quote (ringo111 @ May 09 2004,21:58)I believe GoD Created all things- Jesus is one of those created things.Although I agree with most of your post, I do not hold the view that Jesus was created because of the following scriptures:John 1:3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.So how can Christ be made, if…[Read more]

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    Quote (Guest @ May 14 2004,21:07)This site is a bunch of heretics who deny ChristJohn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD. John 1:14 THE WORD BECAME FLESH and made his dwelling among us…  2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, WHO CONFESS NOT THAT JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE…[Read more]

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    Angels often appear as men when they come to this world.Hebrews 13:2Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.Perhaps they have the ability to take on a human body, in similar fashion that men wear a space suits in space. Perhaps a human body is needed in order to operate as a…[Read more]

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    Quote (MichaelTheeArchAngel @ May 06 2004,06:41)The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263: “The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century.”Does anyone else have any more evidence supporting the idea that Matthew 28:19 is an addition?Also, is the…[Read more]

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    To Ramblinrose, I also thought about this later. It appears that there are multiple heavens or multiple levels of heaven.2 Corinthians 12:2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know–God knows.Isaiah 45:12It is I who made the earth and created m…[Read more]

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    Quote (Guest @ May 11 2004,06:59)Quote: So Matthew 28:19 doesn't teach a Trinity anyway, but I do wonder if this verse was added in. There appears to be no obvious evidence that it was, as all translations appear to have the verse included. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was added in either. Does anyone have any historical evidence to add, that…[Read more]

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    Exodus 25:20The cherubim are to have their wings spread upward, overshadowing the cover with them. The cherubim are to face each other, looking toward the cover. 1 Kings 6:27He placed the cherubim inside the innermost room of the temple, with their wings spread out. The wing of one cherub touched one wall, while the wing of the other touched the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ramblinrose @ May 09 2004,17:22)I am not going to get into a verse war with you as this is unproductive.To Ramblinrose, I see it as the following: 2 Corinthians 10:5We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.My beliefs must…[Read more]

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    Hi Ramblinrose, Hope you are well.As far as I know, ringo111 believes that Jesus pre-existed and you do not. I am in agreement with ringo111 on that, but I am totally against his example of ignoring verses in the New Testament that are contrary to his belief. If he has no proof of mis-translation or fraud, then he should be silent. He is acting no…[Read more]

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    1 Corinthians 2:6-6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if…[Read more]

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    So ringo111, you admit that God creates THROUGH others.Also my advise to anyone reading this discussion is to be very careful with what ringo 111 is advocating. He ignores a whole set of New Testament scriptures that teach that God (the Father) made all things through his son and for him. Although in itself, this doctrine is not foundational, we…[Read more]

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    To ringo111,From your reply, I can only conclude that you consider the Old Testament as scripture, but not the new. So for you to quote from the New Testament would mean that you are quoting from a source that is unreliable in your own eyes.So let it be known to the readers that you think the New Testament is unreliable and it is the Old Testament…[Read more]

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    to ringo111, You say “why dont judge for yourselvs what is right??”So you base your thinking on this, even when it contradicts scripture. Well I will take you up on that, except I won't go against scripture, rather I will use it to support what I judge as right. If I judge something and I condemn certain scripture, then is it scripture or me that…[Read more]

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    I just want to remind all, that we have a covenant with God. So when we sin, we can be forgiven and God is more than able to forgive us everyday, for his mercies are new every morning.We all struggle everyday with sin and the lusts of the flesh. Our only defence is to be lead by the Spirit, as whatever is not of faith is sin. So we must move in…[Read more]

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    John 5:25-29Truly, truly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself, and has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of man. Do not marvel at…[Read more]

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    Dont know, I think it is another Roman Catholic thing.Can anyone else help?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 22 years, 6 months ago

    To ringo111,Some believe that the Beast is the AntiChrist and there are also many antichrists because of the following verse.1 John 2:18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

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