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    Revelation 11:6-126 These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want. 7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them,…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Faiyh? in the forum Faith 21 years, 6 months ago

    Hi papaw,Do you believe that Jesus is a man (created) only, or that he was a divine son of God before he came to earth as a man. Do you believe that Christ was literally the firstborn (of all creation) or just the firstborn in office (privilege)?

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2005,18:51)but will their dead bodies lie in the street for three and a half years?They will prophesy for 1,260 days…But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2005,18:51)The description of where their bodies lie is symbolic and does not define a particular geographic place.It is talking of Jerusalem, where our Lord was crucified.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2005,18:51)They punish and curse and that is not the usual way of God's prophets.This is the Tribulation and that is a period of God's wrath. Before that, prophets came in a season of grace and before that they came in the season of the Law.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2005,18:51)The description of where their bodies lie is symbolic and does not define a particular geographic place. All nations will be able to look at them yet that would not be possible if they were in a spot on earth.If they were 2 men, they would surely make the news and their extraordinary claim that they will be…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2005,18:51)Now why should prophets prophesy in the last days? They are not teaching or revealing prophecy. They are not apparently healing or bringing anyone into the kingdom. They do have enemies who want to harm them and they are able to torment and destroy those enemies and damage the earth.Perhaps to warn of…[Read more]

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    To trettep,How do you see the words 'he' when it speaks of the Holy Spirit. Has it been added in?

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    To Nick, NOTE: I have 2 previous posts.Revelation 1:20The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.Notice that the 7 lampstands are the churches. So it seems that these particular…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2005,14:51)Hi t8,Other thoughts;. I see this chapter as recounting in other idioms aspects of the tribulation.I think there is a risk in taking a literalist view as there are many discrepancies in that light too.I think there is at least far more packed into these verses than the simple explanation of two men.. It may…[Read more]

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    I really do not know Nick.I do think it a bit strange that he said he was flesh and bone and not flesh and blood as you would expect. Also, reconciling the idea that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God and Christ saying he was flesh and bone poses no contradiction as he obviously went to Heaven.In scripture we are told that life is…[Read more]

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    Very true Cubes, A good post. Brief, to the point and true.

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    I should also say that even greater than scripture, is the Spirit of Truth. We can be led into all truth even if we were in a place where scripture didn’t exist. If we had scripture and even understanding of it’s teaching, it would be useless if we had not the Spirit of God.All that we are shown in life by the Spirit will line up with scripture.…[Read more]

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    I should also say that even greater than scripture, is the Spirit of Truth. We can be lead into all truth even if we were in a place where scripture didn't exist. If we had scripture and even understanding of it's teaching, it would be useless if we had not the Spirit of God.All that we are shown in life by the Spirit will line up with scripture.…[Read more]

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    There isn't much teaching in the scripture as regards to hell or the place of the wicked dead. But some by revelation have decided that there are different levels of hell. Some say that the worse part is called 'Outer Darkness'. I am not sure about these things, but my experience seems to be similar to this so-called Outer Darkness, (whatever that…[Read more]

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    Hi trettep, Welcome.The 7 churches were referring to the children of God who were within the physical boundaries of 7 cities. There is also reference to the church in Pricilla and Aquilla's house for example. The Church in this area. The church in that area. The church in that house. The church in New York. The church in the sports stadium. It's…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic The false church in the forum Faith 21 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (Guest @ Mar. 17 2005,22:37)Nick, I do think you know the scripture as well or better than I do and that you could ably argue both sides of this debate but for the sake of posterity I'll give you a scripture. Romans 8:9f Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. I did not write my last post to join in a debate but…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2005,03:00)Hi human, Interesting insights. But scripture does not say these witnesses are men. It does say they prophesy and have powers. Fire flows out of their mouth which makes it unlikely they are human. My theory, which is just that, is that they are the Sun and Moon who are named as witnesses in Ps 89.36f. They…[Read more]

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    Quote (Adam Pastor @ Mar. 17 2005,12:24)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 16 2005,10:13)After all he did appear with Christ in a glorious form with Moses.t8 …this was a VISION …(Mat 17:9)  And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.Moses and Elijah weren't…[Read more]

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    It was a reference from Luke 24:39Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”&Matthew 26:28This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

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