Quote (stroshow @ April 24 2005,13:21)Just to be clear on WHO appeared to Abraham Acts 7:2- And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,So again, it is clear that GOD HIMSELF APPEARED,(stephen is ref. to the account in Genesis 12, yet…[Read more]

Quote (Rudy @ April 24 2005,12:25)Rev. 19: 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was…[Read more]

Quote (Rudy @ April 24 2005,12:25)What you continue to fail to realize is that Jesus is God the Son.  He and the Father are one!What you have failed to realise is that Jesus is the son of God. He is one with the Father in the same way that Jesus wants the church to be one and then one with them. Unity in the spirit, not unity in identity. God,…[Read more]

To Is 1:18 , Technically speaking he is a god just as we are gods and so is the Father a god. God (elohim, theos) is a term applied to many and is usually used to define the word 'authority'.What type of being is Yeshua. He is a son. But he is much more than a son. He is the son. The firstborn. He is the only one to have been begotten by God…[Read more]

Rudy, you say that there is one throne for God and the lamb. That is true, but what are you hoping to dervive from that truth. For just as Christ is seated with the Father on the Fathers throne, we too will be seated with Christ on his throne. Just because Christ is seated with the Father doesn't make them the same God, and we who are seated with…[Read more]

Quote (Rudy @ April 23 2005,12:47)Did Yeshua not say “I and my Father are ONE”?Hi Rudy,Yes he did say that and he also said that we can be one with each other and with them. The one he talked about is unity which is one in spirit.Yashua is not Yahweh. He is his son. People get confused about the Divine and divine nature. Yashua is divine, but he…[Read more]

Good post Greg.

All men should indeed honour the son and the Father. We need to honour both in order to truly honour each one.But only the Father is worshipped as God. Yehsua is worshipped/honoured as the Lamb and the son of God. He is not worshipped as God in scripture.Hebrews 1:6And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God's…[Read more]

To stroshow, No one can see God for he is invisible and he is Spirit.But God manifests himself through his creation. So creation bears witness to the invisible God. But creation is not God himself.Some verses where men are suppose to have seen God, you will find on closer study what they really saw was a representitive of God such as the Lord's…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 23 2005,21:51)Quote (t8 @ April 22 2005,22:13)Quote (Guest @ April 23 2005,16:52)Im with you Rudy, Jesus and the Father share the name YHWHMark 12:29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:That is commandment 1. Notice that Christ said OUR God.You are wrong…[Read more]

To whomever,Yes Nick. One is God and the other is the lamb. One is the Majesty on high and the other is seated at his right-hand side. One is YHWH and the other is his son.To know God is to know Jesus who is the image of the invisible God, but if you say that they are both the same God, then what is that saying about you knowing God?The Trinity…[Read more]

Quote (Guest @ April 23 2005,16:52)Im with you Rudy, Jesus and the Father share the name YHWHMark 12:29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:That is commandment 1. Notice that Christ said OUR God.You are wrong with this. It is not good to change the truth of God for a lie.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 22 2005,03:52)Hi guys,It seems to me that God is a restorer, One who brings together. Satan, on the other hand, appears to have an agenda of fracturing, separating…..divide and conquer as they say.This generalisation is too simple. God restores truth and will cast away/divide anything that is not of him.Matthew 10:34-35…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2005,05:58)Given that 99%+ of professing christians belong to denominational churches, in who's best interest is it when an individual member rejects all churches on doctrinal grounds, physically isolates him/herself from christian fellowship and never again seeks it, God's or Satan's?I doubt your quote that 99% of…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2005,04:07)Question: How many trinitarians have been “turned around” in this forum?Answer: ZEROTo Is 1:18,You are wrong with that assumption. Try reading the following discussion for a start.https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….=1;t=12I have also personally recieved many emails from people who believe what the Trinity…[Read more]

Quote (Rudy @ April 18 2005,09:29)This, in my opinion, is far worse than the trinitarian or oneness doctrine because people actually come to Christ through those means but once in, are diverted down a perverted path that leads to destruction.Maybe? Philippians 1:15-18Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. The…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2005,00:46)A thought Rudy, Dan 12.9″And he said  'Go your way Daniel, for these words are concealed and SEALED UP until the end time”You might have said this but could the breaking of the SEALS in Revelation be unsealing of hidden prophecy?Could be, but I would imagine that it would be something that God reveals in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 17 2005,20:20)Thank you, These are trinitarians. One obvious fact to me about the trinity doctrine as I have yet to meet the person who worships or prays to a trinity. And attendance at their services further shows their confusion as they pray to, worship and call on The Father, the Son and the Spirit-all mixed in and…[Read more]

To trettep, Quote (trettep @ Mar. 31 2005,18:28)Yes T8!!!  We are basically saved so long as we have the Spirit of God but we can lose the Spirit of God by disobedience because disobedience is a spirit also.  T8 you might be ready for a bit more substance in your diet.I want to ask you now what you believe the Gospel is?The good news is that Y…[Read more]

Elijah's ministry or mantle is to make the way straight for the coming of the Lord. We see that clearly with John the Baptist, baptising with a baptism of repentance. Repentance must preceed the coming of the Lord if the Lord is to receive a bountiful harvest of souls and if he is to come for a church without spot and blemish.The Church today…[Read more]