Also, we are told to honour our parents and Jesus honoured God in the same way.

To Is 1:18, If you want to talk about cause and effect, then scripture is quite plain that Jesus is not the source or cause, but the Father is. Jesus is the way or channel in which God caused all things to come into being, and that is why it says “through him” and regarding God “by him”. Jesus life, his words, his teaching, his doctrine, his…[Read more]

Quote t8 the lousy magician who bewitches with his stupid card tricks. my eyes are quicker than your hands, your slow hands.To Soxan,Believe it or not a heckler helps draw a crowd. I use to see this when preachers were preaching the gospel in a city square. These hecklers drew the crowds and then the crowds got to hear the gospel. Might keep you…[Read more]

Thanx Is 1:18, Greek philosophy categorised things as created or uncreated and it has been said that Greek philosophy influenced Christian doctrine more than many think. If Greek philosophy is the frame by which we judge truth, then we have to ask the question, “was Jesus created ir uncreated”. Scripture appears to say that all created things came…[Read more]

Of course not all of New Zealand is that beautiful, but a large part of it is. About one third is protected wilderness and then we have large tracts or rural areas. We have only a handful of cities and these cities would be considered towns in other countries. Our biggest city is Auckland (1.2 million). But even Auckland has 2 harbours, beaches,…[Read more]

To jbl,The fact is that there are many gods, not just 1 or 2. But there is only one true God or one God from whom all things came, including the other gods. This one God is the source of all good things. In fact the Devil, humans, angels, Jesus, and the Father are all called 'theos' and 'eloyhim'. Some are used in a positive sense like Jesus…[Read more]

He who denies that Jesus came in the flesh is antichrist.

To Is 1:18,John 1:1c doesn't teach that Jesus is God himself as you teach and it teaches that he was WITH God in John 1:1b.I await your reply.

To Is 1:18,John 1:1c doesn't teach that Jesus is God himself as you teach and it teaches that he was WITH God in John 1:1b.I await your reply. However since this discussion is about the Holy Spirit, I will replicate this post in the appropriate discussion and hope that you answer me from there.https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….ry13576

To Is 1:18, Trinitarians accept the following verses as Christ and use them to prove his preexistence. If you do as well, you will notice that Wisdom was the first to be brought forth.Proverbs 8:22-3022 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, { Or ; or } { Or ; or } before his deeds of old; 23 I was appointed from eternity, from the…[Read more]

The reason why we shouldn't marry relatives is that the human genepool contains curses that are released in coded DNA. The likelyhood of such traits are multiplied when 2 people with similar DNA have children.Back with Adam and Eve, the genepool was perfect. Sin then entered the human race, but even then the genepool was a lot cleaner than it is…[Read more]

Don't encourage me david.Too late. Here are some more pics of NZ.

Yes John's baptism was a baptism of repentance and repentance was essential in accepting God's messiah. I guess that there would have been people that didn't have the baptism of John as they may have had faith after John died or were not in the area or whatever. But Christ still accepted those people as he was willing to accept all if they would…[Read more]

Hi david, We have a lot of mountains in New Zealand and there are many skifields. But most people live near the ocean where there is a temperate climate. Auckland our biggest city is more subtropical however.I have attached some photos:Wellington (where i live)Near Queenstown. (home to most of our ski fields)Nick lives 2 hours from here. He lives…[Read more]

Good stuff k4c.

Good stuff guys.

Hi guys, This has been an interesting discussion and I can see both sides to what is being said here, although I recognise that you also agree with each in many ways too. I will approach this subject with an open mind and a heart that is willing to learn.Indeed if we are cups, then in our own effort we can only clean the outside and it is the work…[Read more]

Jesus Christ is the son of God. Michael is an angel. There are no scriptures that say they are the same person.There are scriptures that give them both similar qualities or titles. Prince is one example.Funny thing is that Trinitarians make the same error in that they see common qualities of God and Jesus and conclude that they are the same God.…[Read more]

Now I give you a test.Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh?

The Word was divine. John 1:1c.Jesus is the son. “Son' is a noun.Have I passed your test?