True Woutlaw.We must obey his commands if we belong to him.It's not up to us to choose what we will and won't do. If we are servants, we do what the master wants us to do.He commanded that we be baptised. So we should do that which he commanded.Acts 20:27For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God.1 John 2:17The world and its…[Read more]

Not all these verses are clear teachings of Christ pre-existing in Heaven before coming in the flesh. Some are just pointers and fit nicely into the big picture. On their own they are not proof.Other scriptures in my opinion teach clearly that Christ existed (as the Logos) before he partook of the flesh.John 6:38-40For I have come down from…[Read more]

In order to say that Christ was created as a man first, we then deny that Christ's nature which was of his Fathers.We demote Jesus to a flesh being who was exhalted afterward. But this thinking does seem to deny the truth that 'Jesus came in the flesh', 'that Jesus partook of the flesh'.To me there are too many scriptures that talk of…[Read more]

Yes good point Nick. Yes Jesus is the way, truth, and life. God created all things through him and for him. God created all things through his Son.Similarly we are the branches and he is the vine. God tends to the vine. But without the vine there would be no branches. In nature a vine grows and springs branches. But some teach that the branches…[Read more]

Thanks for that seminarian, And if Abraham is our father in that we are his children, then Christ is our everlasting father. This of course is very different to our Heavenly Father.Christ is the image of God and because of that he will be like God. But some use this as proof that he is that God. But if their reasonings were correct then we could…[Read more]

heiscomingintheclouds where does it say in scripture “if one who accepts Jesus as their personal saviour into their hearts,”.Just curious

Absolutely Nick.We should baptise all believers. That much is clear and is also aptly demonstrated in scripture.I personally think that this is enough for us to do the same.

Quote (Dunno @ July 06 2006,12:38)Hi! T8You are absolutely correct in saying, “The Father is Jesus's God and or God”.But, subsequent to that statement, your further comments are, (if you don't mind me saying so), rather bizarre.You stated, “He is a divine being”. This can only be true if you also declare that Jesus BECAME such as he was the First…[Read more]

Micah 5:2″But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”John 8:58″I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”John 3:12-1512 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do…[Read more]

Hi Nick.You ask ” Why would anyone deliberately refuse the simple offer from God?”. My answer to that is because they do not love God.You then predict that God would protect all who are going to be baptised before imminent death. Maybe he does? If so, then it would be safe to say that there was no one onroute to baptism in Hiroshima just before…[Read more]

True Woutlaw, Who are we to question God. But God gaves us scripture and he wants us to question and seek in order to learn. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't see anyone here saying that we shouldn't be baptised. But I have also said myself that there is no scripture that says 'no baptism, no salvation'. Instead the closest I can see to 'no baptism,…[Read more]

1 John 5:2This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands.

She obviously reads “the Word was WITH God” as the “Word was IN God”, or the “Word was an attribute of God”.

Congratulations seminarian.Bless you too.

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ July 05 2006,18:23)That is not what it says in Peter. I believe all should have it done. But to say one will lose his salvation if he does not recieve the water baptism is to add to the word of God.Rev. 22: 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto…[Read more]

OK I will go there and read it.So your stance is that it is scripture. Thx.

Thanks heiscomingintheclouds. Something we can all relate to.

True Woutlaw.I think that it is better to be a sinner than a sinner posing as a righteous person. How boring is it to pretend to be righteous? Might as well enjoy the friuts of sin even if they are for a season. Will not both types of sinners perish anyway?God prefers us to be hot or cold. That means he prefers 'cold' over 'luke warm'.

Amen Woutlaw.We must build on the true foundation, otherwise that which we build and call our own will eventually fall like all things in the world do. That foundation was laid by Christ, the Apostles, and the prophets. Upon this we should build. But even on the true foundation our works can still fail, but we will be saved because of that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 03 2005,17:52)Hi, Can anyone recognise the beast yet? He should be on the scene by now I would have thought.Is he not restrained by some force or blocked by something?When that force is removed, he will be revealed.I cannot find that scripture.Can someone quote it?