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Proclaimer replied to the topic Dualism in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 5 months ago
Hi david.Long time, no see.Good to see you back.Did you go on holiday?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2007,15:30)T8,No body prays to a substance. Kindly cease and desist from constantly using the straw man fallacy. It's childish and impresses no one. Be a grown up t8.Thank you Is. This then brings me to this. It is grammatically incorrect when praying to a Trinitarian God to refer to the 3 persons as HIM, rather it should…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2007,15:03)For me it's more straight forward than that. I talk to Him.Hi Is 1:18.Don't forget the others too.When Trinitarians pray to YHWH, they pray to a HIM and yet can talk to three persons.The ironic thing here is that they should pray to THEM if they wish to be grammatically correct. Otherwise I can only conclude that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 5 months ago
1 John 4:12No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.This scripture is a slap in the face for those who promote the Trinity Doctrine.The Trinity Doctrine states that there is one God (in substance) but 3 persons. In other words this one substance contains 3 persons. When Trinitarians…[Read more]
Proclaimer started the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 5 months ago
This discussion will start with a post from myself, followed by a post from Isaiah. After Isaiah has made his post, other members are free to give feedback on this scripture or the arguments made by myself or Isaiah.
Isaiah can PM me when he is ready to post his rebuttal.
Thanks.
1 John 4:12
No one has ever seen God; but if we love one…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic problems with drugs in the forum Prayer & Advice 19 years, 5 months ago
Hi Not3in1.Quote (Not3in1 @ May 14 2007,04:25)Isn't this a funny example of how we all see what we want to see OR what we think we see……. This is also true of how we look at scripture sometimes. It's how we can have a half a dozen different views on the same verse.
Yes sometimes a verse can appear to say something contradictory and we need to…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic problems with drugs in the forum Prayer & Advice 19 years, 5 months ago
I think that the most likely scenario is that the English is not grammatically correct and that he is asking for help for an existing addiction. Obviously most just overlooked the sentence structure and assumed the obvious. If the English is correct and he is actually looking for an addiction, then I recommend the love of God. You can't go any…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Main stream Christianity in the forum Prophecy 19 years, 5 months ago
Just thought that I would add this.The harlot rides on the back of the beast.If Rome is the beast (kingdom), and we know that it was Rome that forged the new religion from the bible through Constantine, then it is not hard to understand how that harlot rides on the back of the beast.This particular faith eventually became known as the Roman…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Main stream Christianity in the forum Prophecy 19 years, 5 months ago
The world is under the sway of the evil one.The world is pretty big. That would be mainstream.
Proclaimer replied to the topic What About John 1:1 in the NWT? in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 19 years, 5 months ago
To WJ.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 19 2007,04:00)I fully understand what a cult is.You may be aware of the mother of all cults.The Roman Catholic faith.Their foundation is the following:And the Catholic Faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 5 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 19 2007,07:27)Quote (t8 @ May 18 2007,12:12)So WorshippingJesus.From what you have said, I take that you hold to the view that Jesus created all things and that the he created all these things through himself.Is this a correct interpretation of your position?t8Is that all the response that you have?Rom 11:36For of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 5 months ago
So WorshippingJesus.From what you have said, I take that you hold to the view that Jesus created all things and that the he created all these things through himself.Is this a correct interpretation of your position?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 5 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 10 2007,12:29)t8Jn 1:3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.Again t8.If Jesus shared in the creation and he was not the Word that was with God and the Word that was God, but instead as you say “the word was divine” then you contradict the Hebrew scriptures…WJ.I have asked…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 5 months ago
Quote (marthinus @ May 17 2007,23:13)Hi CultBJust to clear things up I dont believe what the Arians and Jehova Witnesses believe. I do not believe that Jesus was a created being. My Belief is based on what I see and read in scripture, and I ask myself Why did Jesus not just say it in clear unambigous terms that he is God in the same clear way…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 5 months ago
Quote (t8 @ May 10 2007,04:49)Quote (t8 @ May 07 2007,18:47)Quote (t8 @ April 23 2007,16:20)Quote (Cult Buster @ April 17 2007,19:20)Hi t8. We could argue over Bible translations or play word games, but the scripture tells us that only God was involved in creation.Hi CultB.So like I said, you do not believe that God made all things THROUGH Christ.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Admin feedback in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 19 years, 5 months ago
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Proclaimer replied to the topic What About John 1:1 in the NWT? in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 19 years, 6 months ago
That which is flesh is flesh.That which is spirit is spirit.The flesh cannot understand the things of the spirit. Those who are ruled by the flesh think the things of the spirit are foolishness.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 08 2007,14:24)Q) Did YHWH declare, using the first person singular pronoun “me”, in Zechariah 12:10 that He would be “pierced” and “looked upon”?A) Yes. (t8 has conceded to this)t8 hasn't conceded. He thinks that (if the translation is correct) that there is a ME and HIM. ME appears to be Yahweh, HIM appears to be Christ given…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2007,01:57)Hi CB, It is not a reasonable presumption to conclude by logic that Jesus is the God of Jesus. Back to the drawing boards.Good one Nick.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 6 months ago
Quote (WhatIsTrue @ May 10 2007,05:22)This is what is known as wishful translation on the part of Trinitarians. As Kyle points out, the Zechariah passage, (as quoted by Is 1:18), reads awkwardly, and makes little literal sense. However, the Revised Standard Version translates the same passage this way:”And I will pour out on the house of David…[Read more]
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