OK, so you guys say that Jesus created all things through Jesus.You are entitled to your view. I disagree with it of course.

Quote (Cult Buster @ May 27 2007,20:48)What did Thomas say to Jesus?Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.To CultB.What did Jesus say? “ye are theos”.So how come you…[Read more]

I should also add that if I serve Christ, then I am serving God because Christ is in God's will. If you don't understand this, then you need to pray that God gives you understanding and wisdom.When you have his understanding, you will know that Jesus is completely in God's will and God sent him to represent himself.Jesus comes in his Father's name…[Read more]

To WJ.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2007,07:48)t8So God dosnt have substance? You should know that God is One t8. Why do you call another being your Lord and master?Dont you know this is forbidden! For the Lord God is a Jealous God and there is none other beside him or like him!You cant have “Two masters”!Luke 13:16*No servant can serve two…[Read more]

OK, so are we to not keep Sunday?Sunday doesn't belong to the Lord anymore/ever.The Lord has only one day, that is Saturday and all the others aren't his. Is this the fruit of what you teach? Or maybe further explanation is needed?I understand your point about the Sabbath and then the instituted day of Sunday by Rome. But I think if you go to far,…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ June 02 2007,08:02)Quote (t8 @ June 01 2007,12:57)I suspect that answer would be something like:There is one God, the Father, Son, Spirit.The Father is Spirit, the son is Spirit, the Spirit is Spirit.Not 3 Spirits but one Spirit.Of course anyone not brainwashed with this philosophy can see this foolishness for what it is.I don't…[Read more]

I suspect that answer would be something like:There is one God, the Father, Son, Spirit.The Father is Spirit, the son is Spirit, the Spirit is Spirit.Not 3 Spirits but one Spirit.Of course anyone not brainwashed with this philosophy can see this foolishness for what it is.

Quote (Cult Buster @ June 01 2007,14:03)Because Christ is The Almighty God. He treads His own winepress.Look again!Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were…[Read more]

Your words just confirm that your God is a substance.But the true God is the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ.If your God is a substance with 3 persons, then you pray to a substance when you call God “him”.Can you see that?I rest my case again.

To Kenrch.Quote (kenrch @ June 02 2007,07:15)The one you pick is the one you serve! That's why you worship on that day. You worship God on God's Seventh day Sabbath OR you worship the Pope on his fake sabbath day.Are you pointing this at me?If so, you are way off track.

Quote (Cult Buster @ June 01 2007,13:53)It is evident that in Heb 1:3 Christ is being described as a divine Being. He is of the same substance as God.To CultB.In your quote you just admitted that Jesus isn't God himself.You clearly are speaking about 2. A being of the same substance as God is a being that is like God himself in the respect that he…[Read more]

Is scripture enough of a revelation of God to man to form doctrine, or do we also need to add the wisdom of some philosophers and the creed of Rome?It appears from some here that they think the latter.

No probs Is.

Quote (Tim2 @ June 01 2007,10:37)Where does it say that Jesus reflects God? It says that Jesus is the Radiance of God's glory. The radiance comes directly from the source. A reflection bounces off of another object.Radiance means of.E.g., radiance of the sun comes from the sun.The son of God also came from God.Here are some uses of radiance. I…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ June 01 2007,10:34)To be clear, 1 Corinthians 11:7 says womans is the glory of man, not the image of man.Thanks. This is true. It doesn't say that.

Good scripture. It says a lot.

To WJ.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 01 2007,11:25)t8So Jesus is not the “Express image of the invisible God” or the “exact representation of his substance”?But he like us just shares the nature of God?Jesus is a divine being. He has God's nature, but for a time he partook of human nature. He has God's nature.We can partake of this same nature.He…[Read more]

Tim2.I will post quickly in response to your last post and may follow it up later with a more indepth response.'elohiym' is used to describe gods who should worship the true God. 7 All who worship images are put to shame, those who boast in idols— worship him, all you gods!'elohiym' also describes the sons of the Most High.Psalm 8…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 31 2007,14:58)T8,The problems you have with this interpretation of Philippians 2:7 are twofold:1. You imply two divine being existed before the preincarnate Yeshua emptied Himself and was “found in appearance as a man”. Thus you have affirmed bi-theism was in effect throughout much of human history, at least until 2000 years…[Read more]

To martian .Quote (martian @ May 31 2007,06:50)Quote (t8 @ May 30 2007,10:24)Jesus emptied himself and came as a man.So he came in the flesh.What did he empty himself of?His privileges? His divine nature? His former glory and position?If he indeed swapped his divine nature for human nature, then he was truly 100% man (the Word became flesh) and he…[Read more]