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Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 29 2007,18:55)Hi W,. So how has the trinity theory evolved lately?Ooh ooh, let me take a guess.It started of a Binity and changed to a Trinity.mmmmmmmmmmmmmWhat would be the next logical step?mmmmmmmmmmmmmDunno.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 24 2007,19:49)Yes. Both of these statements are scriptural.1. No one has seen the Father of Yeshua.2. YHWH has been seen by men.How you reconcile them is up to you.God isn't YHWH is the only logical way to reconcile this, if you hold to both statements. Problem is that it happens to be incorrect and a contradiction, so…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Do you believe the theory of Evolution to be true? in the forum Creation & Science 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2007,09:29)Hi Stu, Is not science a poor tool for measuring life? Does science explain everything? Darwin did not offer his theory as the final answer as to cause but only raised questions as to the means of change yet it is now worshiped as undeniable fact and foundational truth. It seems men were longing for an…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Do you believe the theory of Evolution to be true? in the forum Creation & Science 19 years, 3 months ago
To Stu.Quote (Stu @ July 19 2007,19:11)Not3in1: Thanks for the welcome. I'm afraid I will have to differ with you on the “whose research” thing. The fact is that so called young-earth creation scientists actually do pretty much no original scientific research but spend their time reinterpreting the work of others. There are three…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 23 2007,21:00)There is no question that YHWH has been seen….So you are saying:1) God is invisible2) YHWH has been seen.Okay each to there own, but I don't think many are going to follow you with this one.But then again we shouldn't be drawing men away from the truth in the first place.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 23 2007,20:55)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 01 2007,22:28)From a trinitarian’s perspective, I see two possible scenarios that could account for the contravention between 1 John 4:12 and the passages I cited:1. It’s true that the Father has never been seen but another, also named YHWH, has.2.The word theos in 1 John 4:12 does not ref…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Apostacy in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 3 months ago
When men want to believe in something then sometimes even truth won't stop them.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
John 1:18No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.Do you know better than John?What else are we to think from your interpretation?Surely you must be confused about this.You must see contradiction.No man has seen God at any time says John. You say otherwise and then give us…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Church Fathers 100AD- 250AD in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 3 months ago
Although Trinitarians love to quote from these guys to prove that the Trinity was at least accepted back then, in actual fact these writers mostly condemn the Trinity doctrine as stated today.That is not to say that there writings are all inspired, but if anything I can at least see that they didn't believe in the Trinity as known today.Most of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Those who preach Babylonian doctrine do it because of pride in their own understanding. Those who are led by the Spirit will be set free from such.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ July 23 2007,14:12)t8. So what you just said is that the Holy Spirit is God.Correct. What's so funny about that?The LORD is the Spirit. It is God's Spirit. All good comes from God. He is also the Father of all spirits, (but isn't the blame for bad spirits).He isn't a third member of a Triune God.There isn't 2 or 3 Spirits that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ July 23 2007,14:00)t8. You still haven't answered the question.Do you believe that God has the form of God
Do you believe that God is Elohiym1) God is God and no one has seen his form. He isn't the recipient of divine nature, he is the origin. 2) Elohim is used of God/YHWH, angel, sons of God, idols.You don't need reformation,…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ July 23 2007,13:16)Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,Oh right, of course, there is the Trinity right there. 
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Yes Nick.We should listen to the shepherd, but CultB is trying to get us to listen to him and if we were silly enough to do that, then he would lead us straight back to Babylon and we would end up following a God substance that contains 3 persons.He is trying to lead God's people into captivity.To all. Beware of CultB's leaven.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
CultB, why don't you just cut to the chase and tell us to listen to you and not the true shepherd?Be honest about it.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
It stands to reason that Christ came from God and is like him and from him. That doesn't mean that he is the one by whom he came.He is the visible image of the invisible God. He is the manifestation of the glory, power, and wisdom of God.You cannot seem to grasp the meaning of One true God and his image and son. You don't need a degree to…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
To CultBQuote (Cult Buster @ July 23 2007,13:00)Try again!Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,Luk 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.Luk 4:12 And Jesus answering said unto…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ July 23 2007,11:50)kejonn. I think that your eyes may be glazed over.Why did they fall backwards? Can't you just answer the question!Because he was/is Jesus Christ.Is that not enough?Is the son of God not enough, even though men worshipped angels when they saw them.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ July 23 2007,12:13)Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.And now let's look at the context.Revelation 1:1The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,So there we have it. God > Christ >…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ July 23 2007,12:09)Phi 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:Phi 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:Phi 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:Phi 2:8 And being found in fashion as…[Read more]
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