Quote (Towshab @ Dec. 19 2007,00:22)For hundreds of years, Christians killed and persecuted Jews. Hundreds or thousands, perhaps millions, of Jews have died at the hands of Christians. Knowing this, how can one say the Christian tree is a good tree if for so many years it brought forth such bad fruit?Those who killed Jews were murderers.Jesus and…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2007,22:01)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 18 2007,21:44)Stu, you do not understand because you are perishing.2 Corinthians 4:3And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.I am sure that you will agree that you are perishing and that you have no current hope of avoiding that.I'm sorry? Are you a medical…[Read more]

Hey Stu.You rant and rave a lot, but I have never heard you answer the following question/s:Where did the singularity come from?How is it that this singularity unraveled to create all things that exist today?Surely this singularity didn't come from nothing.How can nothing produce a singularity that eventually unraveled to become a complex universe…[Read more]

Stu, you do not understand because you are perishing.2 Corinthians 4:3And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.I am sure that you will agree that you are perishing and that you have no current hope of avoiding that.

Quote (acertainchap @ Dec. 17 2007,11:55)No we are not animals t8. I disagree with you.Our body is DNA that just happens to be in other animals, even plants. Our bodies are flesh and they will perish just the same as the animals, birds, etc.But we are not our flesh. That is the key. But some are the flesh. They are like animals because they are…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Dec. 18 2007,10:13)To all,Yes, I recreated my site for 2 reasons (1) to restore this site to what it was (although it cannot be fully) and (2) to offer a place where people with beliefs outside of the mainstream can share their thoughts without getting ridiculed.Also, to MrsIM, towshab did not convince me of anything. I was already…[Read more]

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Quote (Stu @ Dec. 17 2007,19:25)Quote Also denying that we are apes and only apes, doesn't mean that we believe that God made the earth in the time it takes the earth to revolve 6 times. Is this a scientific argument or a special pleading against the facts of reality?Try reading it again.I know that I can act like an animal when I want, but I can…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 17 2007,19:25)You seem a bit frightened, t8, that Morningstar has a brain of his own to think with.Way off Stu.Try again.God gave us brains to think with. If Morningstar uses his brain, then great.If I am frightened by anything, it is in how you cannot use your brain to understand that from nothing is nothing.Instead you have…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 17 2007,19:25)Therefore evolution is fact.Not so fast.Evolution contains some fact, just as the Trinity doctrine contains some fact.Even Lamarch's theory of evolution contains some fact.But most theories rely on imagination interspersed with some facts. Sometimes the stretch of imagination is beyond logic and reason though.If…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 18 2007,11:33)If the Holy Spirit is not a person as you say, then Yeshua is the Son of a breath or a force.If the Holy Spirit of God fathered the messiah, then God is his Father.

Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 16 2007,04:22)I dont really understand what you mean, Kenrch.My point is that there really is alot of evidence that implies evolution is real. Do I personally know this “for sure”? No, I don't, but from my personal study of the subject it seems very much the case that evolution is most likely a fact.It is only recently…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 16 2007,08:26)I am at the end where I do not base my life on faith, or even have any faith.Let me finish the sentence.”Except all things came from nothing. Nothing turned into something. But it is not faith.”

Thanks for the story dcman.

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 14 2007,20:54)We are both animals. What else would we be? Can you show me the scriptural reason why you deny the fact of your biological classification (which, incidentally was defined by Linnaeus , a creationist)?Of course we are animals. Our bodies are physical and share DNA code with the animal kingdom. Even daffodils have…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 15 2007,08:54)Thanks WorshipingJesus,Where the anti-Trinitarians stumble is useing the carnal mind to consider spirtual things. It's like trying to start your car with a can opener.”The intellectual factors of religion are important, but their overdevelopment is likewise sometimes very handicapping and embarrassing.…[Read more]

Wow a single celled creature grew bigger and came out of the water and could breathe and then grew hair and ate yellow fruit over millions of generations, lost lots of hair and created the Internet and here we all are.Oh, and there just happened to be a female at every change that enabled us to keep going.Wow, what an achievement.When does the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 08 2007,00:11)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 07 2007,23:51)As far as patronizing goes, well I think a bit of humour is good when people teach or try to convince others that nothing created everything. Humour is another way of saying that this discussion has gone beyond the state of seriousness.Come on stu, a ridiculous statement or theory like…[Read more]

Stu, I agree that you are an ape/animal if that is what you say you are. No argument there if you let your DNA dictate your life.Perhaps you should aim a bit higher than being satisfied with being an animal though. After all, you have more than instinct. You have a conscience and you can reason. You can do things that animals and apes cannot. Tap…[Read more]

BTW:In case it hasn't been made clear, the Trinity doctrine is hocus pocus.