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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 12 2008,17:10)Just to take up one point there, I think it is useful to consider the means by which evolution happens in the plant kingdom. There is certainly competition for resources (soil nutrients, water, light, perhaps opportunities for pollination) but the simple view that the neanderthals went extinct because homo sapiens…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cato @ Feb. 12 2008,02:50)Second, if the stakes are so incredibly high for our one life, then God certainly loves some of us much more then others. One is born to loving Christian parents who teach them, love and nurture them, and surround them with others who believe likewise and encourage and help them stay on path. Another is born in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cato @ Feb. 12 2008,02:50)First, it to me, violates law, laws that God created and set in motion. Nothing in the universe goes from infinite to finite or from finite to infinite. How then can one finite existence then lead to an infinite, eternal, reward or punishment?If one has eternal life say starting at the year 0, then you will…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 13 2008,18:10)No non-believer has ever attempted to disprove god.Good. But many non-believers say there is no God. Yet they have no proof.Theories that become fact because men want to believe it so.Same with Evolution. A theory becomes a fact to those who want it to be true. A belief system with no proof. Charlie thought he had…[Read more]

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    You do not even understand why you are different to animals.That is why you cannot rise above the body you are housed in.Such people were spoken of long ago.Jude 1:10Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand; and what things they do understand by instinct, like unreasoning animals—these are the very things that destroy them.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Paul Potts in the forum Chatroom 18 years, 8 months ago

    God can do what he wants in people's lives and he is merciful. But he generally doesn't appear out if the sky and say “Gidday I am God” in order for men to believe that he exists.Men should know that he exists, but many are in deep darkness as regards to insight.But you only see such things when you have faith or are seeking the truth. God proved…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 06 2008,17:34)Of course. No credibility is gained from saying it, but the point to t8 and Nick is that it is the corollary of what they say all the time. I would love one of them to answer it but sadly they ignore the best points and boringly bang on about things we’ve been through already.I know that you are one smart ape S…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2008,06:07)Hi Stu, That explains why I only got a C in Zoology.Or was that a Z in Coology?

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    Good one.That is what no man can prove, that God wasn't the cause of all.But that doesn't stop some from trying, but any true thinking person would question any statement that says there is no God.Such a statement is just blind faith and usually results from bias.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2008,09:44)Jn 14:23Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.Let’s see a mere man do that!!!WJ, Jesus is the son of God.We are sons of God, but not the son of God.No matter what you say, you will n…[Read more]

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    Stu you cannot even answer where you stand regarding the source of all things.A) NothingB) SomethingC) SomeoneD) Don't knowThen you condemn one of the choices straight off the bat with no proof or option to defend. So how can I take you seriously?I mean it. If you cannot satisfy this simple inquiry, then your condemnation of one of the options is…[Read more]

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    It's quite simple Stu.Code doesn't organize itself into DNA, living beings, galactic spirals, etc. Life doesn't spring from non-life.The whole universe just didn't organise itself by processes that come out of the blue. Processes and laws just didn't invent themselves.Everything has a cause. Play the movie back and you will see that one thing…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 05 2008,21:10)I know there is a god called Zeus (you can't disprove it) who will get to you before your god does and will make you pay for your blasphemy.This argument is pointless because it is not about who is God, but that God exists or he doesn't.Likewise we are not arguing about Piltdown man as being the missing link. Rather…[Read more]

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    If you never saw a fruit that is green, real big, and boomerang shaped, then you might not believe me that such exists, but I have seen one and eaten it. It is called a Guama.Likewise I have experienced God in ways that you wouldn't believe if I told you. But sure you might not believe my testimony and that is fine. Likewise if you haven't seen or…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 05 2008,13:53)Hi T8,Matthew 25:46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.Mark 10:30But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.John…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 04 2008,11:57)Therefore I should infer from analogy that probably all the organic beings which have ever lived on this earth have descended from some one primordial form, into which life was first breathed. “Interesting use of words.Breathe means spirit.

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 04 2008,19:20)He really indicates here what is true of all of us. We just don’t know for sure exactly how the first organism came to be.StuartThere it is.You don't know.Yet you somehow and mysteriously know that there is no creator.I don't expect you to see the double standard, but I am sure that some can.

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 04 2008,19:13)There is no honesty in making such a conclusion. Evolutionary theory has nothing at all to say about gods. Darwin did make it possible to be an intellectually credible atheist. He removed design as a catch-all argument for the existence of gods.So are you saying that the Theory of Evolution has no play in your…[Read more]

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    Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 02 2008,08:33)Nick,You may not do such but I've seen many Christians on other sites doing this. I know of one Jewish site that has many Christians posting, and many of those posts are insulting towards Jews and nothing short of proselytizing. I also see Christians posting on atheist sites and newsgroups. You have one option…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 01 2008,21:53)I am glad to see you promote truth itself. How do you know what ‘truth itself’ is? The rest of us can model truth, sometimes quite well, but we can’t know absolutely that we have it. Once again, do you know everything?Actually I seek the truth and share what I have found. That is why I threw away my belief in Ev…[Read more]

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