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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2008,07:14)“God is a reality” is your unsupported assertion.Stu.”God is not a reality” is your unsupported assertion.I have my proof that God exists, but you have no proof for yourself either way.

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    Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 25 2008,10:13)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 25 2008,06:53)Hi Mandy, t8 does not mean it that way. He is by nature a very kind, gentle and considerate man. He was agreeing with you that withdrawing from the difficult threads may help you heal.Yes, you are probably right Nick.  Thanks.I'm sorry t8.  I shouldn't have assumed and t…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 25 2008,06:53)Hi Mandy, t8 does not mean it that way. He is by nature a very kind, gentle and considerate man. He was agreeing with you that withdrawing from the difficult threads may help you heal.That is true Mandy.All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable.When debating affects your faith to the point of…[Read more]

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    Hebrews 9:22-2622 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. 23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made…[Read more]

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    Quote (charity @ Sep. 24 2008,19:06)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 24 2008,10:21)Quote (charity @ Sep. 23 2008,17:35)Pro 8:1¶Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.Unto you, O…[Read more]

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    Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 24 2008,19:01)That's exactly the problem, Irene.  I'm losing faith in “what is written”.  Not losing faith in God, but in the written Word (not to be confused with the living Word).That's why I say it's useless and challenging to debate it any further.That is fair enough for you to make that choice. Seems pointless for you t…[Read more]

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    Thanks for your post Shania.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Tatian in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 24 2008,10:29)Hi, He was later considered to have become heretical.From NNDBThe Heresy of Tatian. As in the case of most heresies, we have only the partisan statements of opponents. Everything is therefore open to some doubt, but the following points seem fairly certain. “The heresy which Tatian either founded or adopted…[Read more]

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    God is our saviour.So how does God save men? Did he come to earth himself?Or did he send his son, the mediator between God and man?In the OT, God sends his messengers to represent himself.God is invisible and doesn't have a body like us. He is Spirit.

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    Jesus said “Before Abraham, I am” when asked if he was older than Abraham.That is why I said is it challenging because these are not my words but Jesus own words.You are free to disagree of course, but who are you really disagreeing with?

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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 23 2008,20:00)Not at all. I cannot prove that Santa Claus does not exist either. The nature of any science is that you can make a conclusion but it is provisional. Your conclusion about god is not provisional on anything. Even if it were possible to disprove gods you would not accept that proof in any case.You are way off…[Read more]

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    Quote (charity @ Sep. 23 2008,17:35)Pro 8:1¶Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice to the sons of man.For wisdom is better…[Read more]

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    Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 23 2008,19:00)Oh, gotcha.Maybe in the future sometime when I'm interested in debating again.  Not now, though.  It all seems so useless right now.Have a good night,MandyUseless or too challenging?

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 23 2008,13:26)Irene….Prov 8 is talking about WISDOM a primary attribute of GOD the FATHER HIMSELF.  The word Jesus is nowhere in the texts, you simply putting it there. Read Prov 8:1-3, wisdom here is described as a women not a man. Jesus was a man. This is just metaphor of wisdom.  That the way it appears to me S…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 21 2008,23:04)It is a vanishingly tiny chance but is infinitely larger than the uncertainty you admit.A vanishing tiny chance?OK, put a rough percentage on the 3 options please.e.g., 00.02% God created the cosmos49.99% Cosmos came from nothing49.99% Cosmos has always existed in some formIs the above how you see it, or do you want…[Read more]

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    What about all your accusations regarding God being Santa Claus and the like? Sounds like a person with preconceived ideas and a closed mind to me.I choose to believe in God because I know he exists from my life experiences. So it is not just because it is the most logical explanation of the three, but I have had input from God too making it a…[Read more]

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    It is wrong to think that there is only one GOD and CREATOR and that's GOD the FATHER ALONE coupled with a non-preexisting Christ.Yes there is only one GOD and CREATOR and FATHER, but when God created Eve, he did so even though Adam existed and he also made Eve through Adam, yet it was still God who created Eve. So this simple demonstration shows…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 21 2008,21:45)Any person worth their integrity suspends judgement until there is good evidenceThere it is right there Stu.You haven't suspended your judgement have you?You have condemned those who believe option A, even though you have no idea which one is correct.YOU HAVEN”T SUSPENDED YOUR JUDGEMENT THEREFORE ACCORDING TO YOUR…[Read more]

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    So what?You say that certain things are possible and others aren't yet the ones that are possible all happened without any guidance from intelligence. To your mind that may be possible to others it is not. Also you just accept that laws just existed, but you need to explain the framework that allows an expanding universe. The thing is that most…[Read more]

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