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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Quote (charity @ Sep. 24 2008,19:06)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 24 2008,10:21)Quote (charity @ Sep. 23 2008,17:35)Pro 8:1¶Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.Unto you, O…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 24 2008,19:01)That's exactly the problem, Irene.  I'm losing faith in “what is written”.  Not losing faith in God, but in the written Word (not to be confused with the living Word).That's why I say it's useless and challenging to debate it any further.That is fair enough for you to make that choice. Seems pointless for you t…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Thanks for your post Shania.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Tatian in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 24 2008,10:29)Hi, He was later considered to have become heretical.From NNDBThe Heresy of Tatian. As in the case of most heresies, we have only the partisan statements of opponents. Everything is therefore open to some doubt, but the following points seem fairly certain. “The heresy which Tatian either founded or adopted…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Constantine in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago

    God is our saviour.So how does God save men? Did he come to earth himself?Or did he send his son, the mediator between God and man?In the OT, God sends his messengers to represent himself.God is invisible and doesn't have a body like us. He is Spirit.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Jesus said “Before Abraham, I am” when asked if he was older than Abraham.That is why I said is it challenging because these are not my words but Jesus own words.You are free to disagree of course, but who are you really disagreeing with?

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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 23 2008,20:00)Not at all. I cannot prove that Santa Claus does not exist either. The nature of any science is that you can make a conclusion but it is provisional. Your conclusion about god is not provisional on anything. Even if it were possible to disprove gods you would not accept that proof in any case.You are way off…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Quote (charity @ Sep. 23 2008,17:35)Pro 8:1¶Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice to the sons of man.For wisdom is better…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 23 2008,19:00)Oh, gotcha.Maybe in the future sometime when I'm interested in debating again.  Not now, though.  It all seems so useless right now.Have a good night,MandyUseless or too challenging?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 23 2008,13:26)Irene….Prov 8 is talking about WISDOM a primary attribute of GOD the FATHER HIMSELF.  The word Jesus is nowhere in the texts, you simply putting it there. Read Prov 8:1-3, wisdom here is described as a women not a man. Jesus was a man. This is just metaphor of wisdom.  That the way it appears to me S…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 21 2008,23:04)It is a vanishingly tiny chance but is infinitely larger than the uncertainty you admit.A vanishing tiny chance?OK, put a rough percentage on the 3 options please.e.g., 00.02% God created the cosmos49.99% Cosmos came from nothing49.99% Cosmos has always existed in some formIs the above how you see it, or do you want…[Read more]

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    What about all your accusations regarding God being Santa Claus and the like? Sounds like a person with preconceived ideas and a closed mind to me.I choose to believe in God because I know he exists from my life experiences. So it is not just because it is the most logical explanation of the three, but I have had input from God too making it a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    It is wrong to think that there is only one GOD and CREATOR and that's GOD the FATHER ALONE coupled with a non-preexisting Christ.Yes there is only one GOD and CREATOR and FATHER, but when God created Eve, he did so even though Adam existed and he also made Eve through Adam, yet it was still God who created Eve. So this simple demonstration shows…[Read more]

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    Can anyone help here?

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    Quote (Stu @ Sep. 21 2008,21:45)Any person worth their integrity suspends judgement until there is good evidenceThere it is right there Stu.You haven't suspended your judgement have you?You have condemned those who believe option A, even though you have no idea which one is correct.YOU HAVEN”T SUSPENDED YOUR JUDGEMENT THEREFORE ACCORDING TO YOUR…[Read more]

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    So what?You say that certain things are possible and others aren't yet the ones that are possible all happened without any guidance from intelligence. To your mind that may be possible to others it is not. Also you just accept that laws just existed, but you need to explain the framework that allows an expanding universe. The thing is that most…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 18 2008,15:10)Hi Nick,Surely you have something more than that to offer. Are angels referred to AS Yahweh ever? Can you offer any unambiguous scripture to support your opinion that an angel is referred to as Yahweh? A being referred to as Yahweh is not the same as a being merely representing Yahweh.LUSee for yourself…[Read more]

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    Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 13 2008,18:32)Now who's mocking who?  Hey, that sounds like an old 80's song!  :DGod is not mocked.It doesn't matter if you mock evolution. Evolution doesn't care if it is mocked.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Quote (Jodi @ Sep. 08 2008,11:20)Hi David, Satan means adversary and there is not one single scripture that says that the adversary is an evil supernatural being.Satan is said to be the man who has in mind the things of men. Revelations 12 shows the old serpent and Satan to be one and the same. Therefore we can conclude that Eve was having a…[Read more]

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