Yes it is self.What you believe that self to be is your choice.I know that my body is a vehicle for myself. You are obviously not aware of that, and not being aware doesn't negate something, just as not being aware of the fifth dimension negates that.However, it does stand to reason that there is a lot more to what you would know and experience.…[Read more]

Yeah but logic or order never come from nothing. Whatever happens in natural selection is allowable by the underpinnings of creation whether you call that code, laws, instructions, or all three. Any variation in a species is allowable by reason of the DNA interacting with the environment which is handy for survival. e.g, we have many types of…[Read more]

Yes I follow what you are saying.But how does the other beast who replaced the original one set up an image which is himself and give life to it?According to your thinking, wouldn't the false church itself be more like the image?I mean as Jesus is the image of God and not God, then why is the image of the beast (pope as you say) also the pope?…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ May 08 2009,22:26)I did expect you to write as much.  Are you saying that your god was a butterfingers for allowing those who had been temporarily 'saved' to slip through his fingers from the actionNo, it is up to us what we choose. If we choose to allow the cares of the world to choke the seed of truth then that is our decision and…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ May 06 2009,17:13)1) Beast————–Ruler/government2) Antichrist———-the Pope3) False prophet——the pope4) Image of the Beast-the pope5) Babylon————the Catholic church, and all false religion.Hi Georg.Revelation 13:11-1711Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he…[Read more]

This is about the historical accuracy of the texts.Try this link for accuracy of historical events. Events that many today are skeptical of, but are not skeptical when you look at the archeological evidence:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=2373

Well every one here has a mother. So yes happy mothers day and we appreciate you.

Yes Cindy. Some people are very insensitive, but that is not our concern. God gets the last say in all our lives and justice is done in the end. We only need to have faith in God and be led by his Spirit. If others want to slander and look at the speck while ignoring the log in their own eye, then that is truly their problem and not ours.But every…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 10 2009,02:43)Quote (t8 @ May 09 2009,08:57)http://www.christianforums.com/t7317213-10/This link leads to a forum where a member with a so-called “reputation beyond repute” gives his summary about heaven.net.nzHis stats are as follows:Name: yeshuasavedmeStatus: Senior VeteranPosts: 4,941Blessings: 16,694Reps:…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ May 07 2009,20:25)Quote (thethinker @ May 07 2009,02:30)Quote (Stu @ May 06 2009,22:26)Quote (thethinker @ May 06 2009,03:46)Stu wrote:Quote Indeed, as you describe, creationists are close-minded.  And usually they persist with lies when they are shown that their falsifiable claims are false.Stu,How is my view that the original…[Read more]

It is probably impossible to prove to you that I have or am a soul, since the proof you require is physical and the soul is not physical. The soul is the ghost in the machine so to speak. It is the real person or the inner person. When my body is dead, my life will still exist. My body is merely a vehicle that ties me to the physical realm. Think…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ May 07 2009,20:01)I presume you agree that once a blind person has seen, that person will understand the concept of sight.  Explain to me then how there are so many people in the world who have been christians but through a process of careful consideration of their beliefs have changed, coming to the same conclusion as me.  Are they i…[Read more]

Hi Texas.Well thought out and presented.I do not agree that the Watchtower is the man of lawlessness though, but I could see that it might be a messenger of lawlessness. The RCC is much bigger than the JWs for example and there are lots of denominations and cults that call themselves the true Church and their creeds differ with scripture.The man…[Read more]

You get that conclusion because you are blind. Not all arrive at that conclusion.But I accept that you have the right to choose and the right to choose even your own demise.You can lead an ape to water but you can't make him drink.

I am not the one taking a purposeful risk of losing my soul Stu. You need hope, but your belief denies you the right to have it.

Stu it is a no brainer that just about any organ and body part is complex, never mind the billion or trillion cells that make them up. You also have to consider how they are used with other body parts and the environment too. The human eye is relatively complex and man hasn't been able to reproduce all its functions to that quality of operation.…[Read more]

To thethinker.When God creates it is good. But he takes a risk by giving us choice. The two trees demonstrates this clearly.He gives us choice so that we will not be a race of robots and that our love is not a programmed response. Once choice is given and we choose him, then love is perfected.There is risk with choice, but it is the only way to…[Read more]

If you wish something to be true, then that maybe ironic in that fantasy is what you are supposedly against, yet you demonstrate your own fantasies. So yes there is irony.

Quote (Stu @ May 06 2009,02:18)Quote (t8 @ May 05 2009,17:00)Quote (Stu @ April 27 2009,23:08)Little children may be thrown into a lake of fire if we get the mythology wrong.That is so much more acceptable now.Wrong again Stu.Show us where that is written in scripture.You won't be able to find it because it is not there.So the lake of fire you…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ May 06 2009,02:57)MORE IRONY!I have used the inverted irony type because your irony is inverted. If that is not ironic.Maybe you missed it.You have said that common sense is not a reasonable thing to use in order to understand what happened to cause the Big Bang. Yet you are basically saying that God is not a common sense option.…[Read more]