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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 22 2009,06:43)The reaseon being you cannot show how Jesus is less than the Father in quality or type!I don't need to. All that you need to know is that God is the source and Jesus is his image. Jesus is not the source and not the Most High.Similarly Eve is from man. Both are adam, but only one is Adam.i.e., both are…[Read more]

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    Hi thethinker.So I am confused and you have posted the above to bring light to the confusion.OK, let's test your supposition and position.It is written that we will be like Jesus is and he will call us brothers.If Jesus is God, then the above couldn't be true because we will be brothers to God and therefore other Gods.Yet the fused bolded text…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2009,13:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 19 2009,13:24)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2009,20:44)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 19 2009,07:30)You may want to read the fathers….O…that's right….you have rejected your spiritual birthright.Actually I enjoy much writing from the the early fathers, before the Trinity doctrine took hold…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 22 2009,11:02)thinker said to Gene:Quote Gene,You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord? t8 replied:Quote LORD or Lord.It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord.But it was Jesus who made Himself servant (Philippians 2). Get my point?thinkerYour doctrine is confused.The order of headship is…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 22 2009,10:58)Trinitarianism is here to stay despite the puny and insignificant revolt of many here.thinkerLike a mustard seed, for they too are puny and insignificant.Although if you think that this mustard seed will remain that way, then why bother coming here? Wouldn't it be better to have an impact on something that is…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 22 2009,10:18)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 20 2009,19:01)Not cool Aid. It's the real thing.Kool-aid consists of 2 quarts of water, kool-aid mix, and 1 cup of sugar. 1 cup of sugar is 196 grams. 2 quarts of water is 64 fluid ounces. That means that Kool-aid has about 3 grams of sugar per ounce.An eight ounce can of Coca-cola has…[Read more]

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    Here is a snippet of writing I previously wrote in a debate with Isaiah, regarding John 1:1. (BTW, Isaiah is a self-confessed Trinitarian )===================================================================To start, please read the 2 examples below and guess which one is correct:1)a) In the beginning was the woman,b) and the woman was with the…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 22 2009,03:48)I am totally aware what trinitarians believe. Apparently you have not seen my posts in the past inwhich I have stated that I am not a traditional trinitarian. You evaded my point. The reading of “theos” in John 1:1c as qualitative does no harm to trinitarianism.Except that we can partake of divine nature and…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 19 2009,11:21)Regardless, t8's view that the word “God” in 1:1c should be taken qualitatively does no harm to trinitarianism at all,You show your ignorance here.Trinitarians beleive that Jesus is God in identity, therefore saying that the Word Was God himself, is actually saying that Jesus is God. If Jesus is a divine…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 21 2009,19:15)Irene said:Quote Jesus never was the Almighty, we all know that some scriptures were added.  He is the beginning of Gods creation.Irene,The statement above proves that you are not a true Christian. You're in the same camp with Bodhitharta now. In a way it is good Bodhitharta is here. He is sifted out the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (georg @ Sep. 21 2009,15:35)t8  In the Old Testament it says LORD, IMO that is the Father.  Do you agree with that?  Lord is always Jesus, but LORD is the Father IMOIreneQuote (georg @ Sep. 21 2009,15:35)t8 In the Old Testament it says LORD, IMO that is the Father. Do you agree with that? Lord is always Jesus, but LORD is the Father IM…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 21 2009,11:08)t8,The word “kurios” is consistently applied to Jesus Christ. It was the Lord (kurios) who called Himself the Almighty in Revelation 1:8. You admit that there is only one kurios. Therefore, Jesus Christ is the Almighty in Revelation 1:8.thinkerThere is one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ.This means that the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 21 2009,13:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 21 2009,08:40)Hi Not3, The book is food. You have developed biblical anorexia?Nick,Flawed food?  Re-done food?  I wouldn't buy it for a dollar.On the other hand, the lessons that the good book teaches are treasures.  They are words to live by even if you do not believe in Jesus, or he…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 21 2009,11:59)Irene,The name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is ONE NAME. This implies a trinity no matter how you slice it!thinkerWe do not wish to slice God. He is one, so no need to.

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    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 19 2009,18:26)I scarcely need to mention everyone here.  I bet if you took a poll and asked everyone here, “Do you confess the Father and the Son…and do you believe that Jesus is the Christ?”  Everyone here would say they did.Lame.If you asked every Trinitarian if they think God is one, and a HE, HIM, they would s…[Read more]

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    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 09 2009,18:04)Catholic Christian – May I ask you a question?i.e., Catholic Christian – May I set up a trap for you?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 1 month ago

    Not cool Aid. It's the real thing.Kool-aid consists of 2 quarts of water, kool-aid mix, and 1 cup of sugar. 1 cup of sugar is 196 grams. 2 quarts of water is 64 fluid ounces. That means that Kool-aid has about 3 grams of sugar per ounce.An eight ounce can of Coca-cola has about 27 grams of sugar. Which works out to about 3.4 grams of sugar per…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 20 2009,11:45)t8 said:Quote There is one God the FATHER and one Lord JESUS CHRIST.TO ALL:t8 has correctly said that there is one Lord JESUS CHRIST. Seeing that this is true then Jesus Christ IS THE ALMIGHTY,8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come,…[Read more]

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    Don't forget to divide by 3 if you want to break the figure down further per se.Also, the rest are about the religion of evolution.That works out at nearly 100% for 2 religions combined. Babylonian belief and Evolution religion.I think that many just love to join belief systems.They shop for the one that suits them best.It is easier than seeking…[Read more]

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