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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2009,05:57)Quote (Gene @ Sep. 25 2009,13:05)Thinker……..Doesn't these things Jodi is quoting trouble you even a little, come out of those false teachings of the TRINITY thinker.geneGeneNone of those scriptures contradict the Trinitarian view!WJOh yeah right, let's also pretend that the next 3 scriptures do not…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years ago

    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 26 2009,10:47)THAT was a powerful story!  I don't know how well honoring the Son and by extension the Father is a good argument for their unity in essence.  But it sure was a powerful story.Being equal to something means you are like something and it is a given that you are not that which you are equal to.If Jesus h…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 25 2009,19:34)I do NOT think the way to God is “a trinity.” Jesus said that He Himself is the way to the Father and that no one comes to the Father but through Him. Show where I have ever said that one must believe in “a trinity” to come to God.  ???thinkerThe Roman Catholic faith is based on a creed that says that you must…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years ago

    Quote (karmarie @ Sep. 25 2009,21:02)T8 may I ask you, if as you said  “the truth sets us free, and then the enemy desires to institutionalise us into a denomination where we are told what to believe” is correct, which I sence is true, what are we to do?Am I supposed to be on my own? Who do I conversate with? When life starts falling to pieces in…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years ago

    We are the Church.Where 2 or 3 are gathered…Those who are led by the Spirit are like the wind.People use to fellowship together in their area. We are free to fellowship where possible. In your home, whatever.1 Corinthians 16:19 The churches in the province of Asia send you greetings. Aquila and Priscilla greet you warmly in the Lord, and so does…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years ago

    The truth sets us free. Therefore the enemy desires to institutionalise us into a denomination where we are told what to believe. But it is the truth that sets us free and it is the truth that the enemy (and those that work for him) desire to snuff out.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 24 2009,21:16)Hi Irene, God is not family but He has a family.Yes God is the Father. He is the most high God. We will never be the Most High God.God shares his nature and attributes, so we can be sons of God, images of God, and children of God. We can be representations of him, and vessels to display his glory. But we are…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years ago

    Quote (RokkaMan @ Sep. 23 2009,05:53)Great analysis, you write very well.But question….In the beginning was The Word, The Word was with God, and The Word was God.What is your take on The Word was God.Is it literally God as in YHWH, or a qualitive God? As in title.And if the original word was Logos what are the implications then?Like your…[Read more]

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    Yeah that is a good request.Not sure if it could be done using the current installation. Would need to change to a new system I think. Could be a bit of work.I think at some stage it will need to be done anyway.So will keep an eye on the options.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 22 2009,02:26)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 21 2009,20:44)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 21 2009,19:15)Irene said:Quote Jesus never was the Almighty, we all know that some scriptures were added.  He is the beginning of Gods creation.Irene,The statement above proves that you are not a true Christian. You're in the same camp with Bodhitharta…[Read more]

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    LifethereforelifegiverCan we change it to six?

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    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Sep. 23 2009,12:22)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 23 2009,11:48)Hi Jodi, The Man Jesus is the Christ, anointed at the Jordan. Born of David according to the flesh and Son of God according to the Spirit.But none of these facts deny his unique origins.WHY would they DENY his unique origin? On the contrary don't they DECLARE his origin?…[Read more]

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    YHWH is God. And Yeshua is the image of God, the firstborn of all creation. He is the visible representation of the invisible God. I guess if Jesus isn't the root of David and if he didn't have glory with the Father before the world begun, then no one could see the full glory of the invisible God for all the past pre-2000 years ago. Meaning that…[Read more]

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    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Sep. 22 2009,08:46)Did I say the above wrong?It takes the three to makeup the ONE god right? So they each individually are not considered the one true god, but as three they are considered the one true god? However, even though all three make up the ONE, can they individually be referred to as god?So Trinitarians, when it says…[Read more]

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    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Aug. 20 2009,04:11)Thanks Gene, I hope people are really starting to question their understanding of Jesus being YHWH, both trinitarians and pre-existent folks.YHWH is clearly the Father due to the fact that it was YHWH that promised He would raise up an eternal human king of the seed of David and be to him a Father.Love to you,…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 22 2009,07:07)Jesus was not born out of the Father aesexually as t8 is proposing!I never mentioned the word asexually. And is it not better to let Jesus speak than WJ?John 8:42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 22 2009,06:43)The reaseon being you cannot show how Jesus is less than the Father in quality or type!I don't need to. All that you need to know is that God is the source and Jesus is his image. Jesus is not the source and not the Most High.Similarly Eve is from man. Both are adam, but only one is Adam.i.e., both are…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years ago

    Hi thethinker.So I am confused and you have posted the above to bring light to the confusion.OK, let's test your supposition and position.It is written that we will be like Jesus is and he will call us brothers.If Jesus is God, then the above couldn't be true because we will be brothers to God and therefore other Gods.Yet the fused bolded text…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2009,13:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 19 2009,13:24)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2009,20:44)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 19 2009,07:30)You may want to read the fathers….O…that's right….you have rejected your spiritual birthright.Actually I enjoy much writing from the the early fathers, before the Trinity doctrine took hold…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 22 2009,11:02)thinker said to Gene:Quote Gene,You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord? t8 replied:Quote LORD or Lord.It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord.But it was Jesus who made Himself servant (Philippians 2). Get my point?thinkerYour doctrine is confused.The order of headship is…[Read more]

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