Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2009,17:45)Are you saying that our perception of consciousness proves the existence of your god or not?I am not sure that I have said that, but if I was to hedge my bets, then I would say that the cause or origin of something would have the attributes or ingredients of that which it spawned.I don't really hold to that nothing…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 18 2009,17:46)t8True! But I am not afraid to follow scripture and call him my Lord and my God.Others say he is “a god” of some sorts but do not say he is their God. (Polytheism) They like to play on words and yet say he is their “Only Lord and Master” Jude 1:4. Yet the scriptures say the Lord our God is “One…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 18 2009,17:33)ConMaybe you didn't notice.Only Jesus sits in the Fathers throne!WJActually he is at the right side of the Father and sits with God on his throne. We can sit with Christ on his throne. Does that make us Christ?No. God shares his authority with Christ and Christ shares his authority with those of us who…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 18 2009,16:58)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2009,22:42)hi WJanything you disagree with  it become a metaphor ,there is now way out, WJ the trinity does not exist,it is a false metaphor invented to pursue  idolatry this you can easy see though history of the most fervent disciples of that religion CATHOLIC ROMAN a h…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2009,16:20)Why does it not prove the existence of Shiva?Oh right, that is why the world should write off any belief in God and why it shouldn't be an option. Because men cannot make their minds up about who is God, that negates any merit that there is a God.Uh huh! Really logical Stu. Right on.While we are at it, lets say that…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 17 2009,15:37)So maybe you can tell me what computers have to do with that.Here is one for a start.Conscious humans cannot make a better machine for thinking than dead nothing.That is what you would have us subscribe to Stu.It is for such reasons that it is written, “the fool says in his heart that there is not God”.

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 16 2009,07:04)Stu,Have you chosen not to answer my questions, or are you still formulating an answer?Sounds like he has made a conscious decision not to answer.Yet he rules out any kind of consciousness in the processes that brought about the universe.Double standard.

Oh, I should mention BD, that it says “come out of her my people” when talking of the Whore. The keywords here are MY PEOPLE.

bd, I disagree with the Trinity doctrine. I believe it is a doctrine of the whore. So this site is helping those who are caught up in her ways using the very scriptures that they supposedly hold dear.But other faiths voice skepticism of scripture and what is written therein.Given that, it is logical to have a place where people who believe…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2009,13:03)Other faiths are not doubts or scepticism.They are when it comes to the bible and what is written in there. You have even expressed skepticism yourself regarding the preservation and teachings in the bible have you not?Heaven Net was from it's inception a site where people could question what they were…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 24 2007,19:14)Every Tongue Shall Confess…Truly every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord!Amen.Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.Notice it doesn't say that “all will confess that Jesus is God” like you do.To put this into context so that you are not confused into t…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 17 2009,18:40)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 16 2009,19:43)Hi Everybody,Now that David is back, I think this might be a lively discussion.The 14 Commandments of the JEHOVAH Witnesses Organization; are there really 14?These are based entirely on the teachings found on Page 122 of ‘What does the bible teach?'1) Thou shalt have n…[Read more]

Hi karmarie.The problem there is this board wasn't created for the wide road rather the narrow one.Even the free for all forums end up being a place where people express doubts about the narrow path.So I see it working quite well in its current form.

Isn't that what we have now BD?An area where all can post and express their doubts and skepticism.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 18 2009,07:55)“Image of the invisible God” or “God made visible”.I choose the first one. Image of the invisible God. (Image of God).

Oh great, at least you had a laugh. Pity about the coffee. Might need to order another one. A coffee in the morning is very important.I would like to have a Mocha, but I am off to bed now and would never sleep if I pumped in some caffeine now. (It is 11.00pm here.)BTW: I can move the topic if you want.

Oh great, at least you had a laugh. Pity about the coffee. Might need to order another one. A coffee in the morning is very important.I would like to have a Mocha, but I am off to bed now and would never sleep if I pumped in some caffeine now. (It is 11.00pm here.)BTW: I can move the topic if you want.

Show me a book that prophecies in the name of Jupiter and predicts the future.A large part of the bible is prophecy. If you wanted proof that the bible was a load of cobblers that would be the best place to start. It is something tangible or should I say, something that you can test.You could try and disprove that the bible didn't say that Israel…[Read more]

Hi Con.Why did you post this one in “Skeptics Place”.Why not “Truth and Tradition”. When you cross Skeptics Bridge, Stu come out from underneath and starts growling, “who is crossing my bridge, ah huh, I am going to rip your head off”. He sleeps under that bridge night and day, just waiting for a poor soul who happens to pass this way. I have even…[Read more]

Hi Con.Why did you post this one in “Skeptics Place”.Why not “Truth and Tradition”. When you cross Skeptics Bridge, Stu come out from underneath and starts growling, “who is crossing my bridge, ah huh, I am going to rip your head off”. He sleeps under that bridge night and day, just waiting for a poor soul who happens to pass this way. I have even…[Read more]